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Bailey
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Message 56 of 83 (502636)
03-12-2009 3:50 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by Modulous
03-12-2009 11:21 AM


Re: Gilgamesh problem
In Genesis 10:8-11 we note Nimrod established a kingdom. Therefore, we might expect to find a well-known tale, common in Sumerian literature, of a man who fits the description. Just as Mod is patiently presenting, we do - as there likely was. In addition to the Sumerians, the Babylonians wrote about this person; the Assyrians likewise; and the Hittites. Even in Palestine, tablets have been found with this man’s name on them.
He was obviously the most popular hero in the Ancient Near East. What might make sense? Perhaps if Peg, and others, explored the abundance of potential evidence equating Nimrod to Gilgamesh, such discussion may seem less threatening to certain individuals. If such an assumption is at least humored, along with its prospective evidence, it may provide an avenue of hope and encouragement for this discussions progress.
At the least, one can contemplate specific significant impacts ancient indigenous cultures may have provided one another, as well the distance superstition and idolic worship appear to swim through time. If we are not careful, Nimrodian origins of the winter solstices' decorated pine tree ritual observance, which Jeremiah sternly rebukes in chapter 10 of his book, may be revealed as well - complete with silver/gold ornaments and presents underneath.
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Bailey
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Message 66 of 83 (502857)
03-13-2009 6:19 PM
Reply to: Message 58 by Peg
03-13-2009 6:12 AM


c ... on ... ne ... ct ... th ... e ... d ... ot ... s
Peg writes:
weary writes:
In Genesis 10:8-11 we note Nimrod established a kingdom. Therefore, we might expect to find a well-known tale, common in Sumerian literature, of a man who fits the description. Just as Mod is patiently presenting, we do - as there likely was. In addition to the Sumerians, the Babylonians wrote about this person; the Assyrians likewise; and the Hittites. Even in Palestine, tablets have been found with this man’s name on them.
this is just an interesting side point...
The rabbinic writings derived the name 'Nimrod' from the Hebrew verb maradh′, meaning 'rebel' So it wasnt the mans actual name
Granted, this may appear presumptous ...
Yet, perhaps the above is less a side point and rather a clue. The name is a likely indicater of how this man's behavior was percieved by, at least One, Sumerian culture in opposition to his own. We are encouraged that you have chosen to present this. Considering the name nimrod was more or less a ... shall we say - ‘title’, which subsequently evolved into a modern day epithet, one may further explore the logical conclusions that maradh′ (m.r.d) may lead to - namely marduk (m.r.d.).
Have you made the marduk connection Peg?
wiki writes:
Marduk
(Sumerian spelling in Akkadian: AMAR.UTU "solar calf"; perhaps from MERI.DUG; Biblical Hebrew מְרֹדַךְ Merodach; Greek Μαρδοχαῖος, Mardochaios) was the Babylonian name of a late-generation god from ancient Mesopotamia and patron deity of the city of Babylon, who, when Babylon permanently became the political center of the Euphrates valley in the time of Hammurabi (18th century BC), started to slowly rise to the position of the head of the Babylonian pantheon, a position he fully acquired by the second half of the second millennium BC.
Nibiru, to the Babylonians, was the celestial body or region sometimes associated with the god Marduk.
Peg writes:
they dont know the name of the one who founded the city of Babel. We know him as a rebel or 'nimrod', and that is all we know him as.
Yes. If one is not willing to search hiStory, that is all they may know of him.
he certainly was no hero.
Many would disagree, although we are inclined not to.
He is presented in a negative way in the Jewish Targums, the writings of the historian Josephus, and also the context of Genesis chapter 10 suggest that Nimrod was a mighty hunter in opposition to God.
Thatta girl. Read from many sources trust the One you love.
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