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Message 32 of 83 (502011)
03-09-2009 10:22 AM

Reply to: Message 31 by caffeine
03-09-2009 9:51 AM

Re: Influences

Hi caffeine,

caffeine writes:

And I'm not the only one who interpreted it this way.

Everyone is entitled to believe whatever their desires are. But that does not make something true.

Since we are talking about the accuracy of the Bible I would like to point out a couple of things.

Man was created in Genesis 2:7.

God planted a garden and put the man in it in Genesis 2:8.

Genesis 2:9 tells us the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was in the midst of the garden.

In Genesis 2:17 man was commanded not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

My question to you then is,

What was the object the first man was commanded not to have sex with?

There was no animals.

There was no woman.

There was only fruit trees.

So no the other stories has nothing to do to influence what is actually written in the Bible.

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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Message 40 of 83 (502254)
03-10-2009 1:35 PM

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03-10-2009 8:22 AM

Re: Gilgamesh problem

Hi Mod,

Modulous writes:

Your argument only works IF AND ONLY IF both the story of Utanapishtim and the story of Noah are true.

What is the Gilgamesh problem?

As I understand it the people that followed Gilgamesh around 2300 BC would have been descendants of Noah and his sons. Which would have been followers of Nimrod in the building of the tower of Babel.

If this is the case and the story of Noah was true they would have a flood story similar to the one told by God's chosen people.

They would probably have a lot of things in common but still a lot of different beliefs.

Just curious to the thinking here.

God Bless,

"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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Message 42 of 83 (502284)
03-10-2009 5:29 PM

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03-10-2009 3:12 PM

Re: Gilgamesh problem

Hi Mod,

Modulous writes:

If we can't get such a clear and simple issue straightened out, then more complex discussion is going to be hopeless, yes?

If you have to get the issue of Gilgamesh straightened out you may be fighting a losing battle. It has been going on a long time.

It has been a long time but if my memory does not fail me the Tablet XI is or was in the posession of one of your countryman.

It came from the library of one of the Assyrian king's. It was written in the 7th centry BC.

My biggest problem with the story is the english words used to describe some of the things of that day as they did not exist until after the 5th century AD.

But I also have problems with some of the words the Bible translaters chose to use also.

One of those words appear in the following verse, (book) when it simply means writings.

Deu 31:24 And it came to pass, when Moses had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book, until they were finished,

Moses had to finish his writings that God had told him to write.

Deu 31:26 Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee.

These writings were to be kept in the side of the ark of the covenant.

This was somewhere around 1475 BC.

That is the reason I have never paid any attention to the Epic of Gilgamesh. And the reason I was looking for information.

God Bless,

"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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Message 64 of 83 (502803)
03-13-2009 12:12 PM

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03-13-2009 8:34 AM

Re Developed

Hi anglagard,

anglagard writes:

Also one must consider Mayan hieroglyphics, which were developed independently.

Why?

Since everybody descended from Noah and his 4 sons and the land mass was all in one place and they spoke one language until God scattered them over the face of the earth and then divided it to where it is today.

They would all have the same stories to work from some just embellished them more than others.

God Bless,

"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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Message 72 of 83 (502906)
03-14-2009 12:09 AM

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03-13-2009 9:27 PM

Re Developed

Er...Granny...The land mass was all in one place according to the Bible.

Genesis 1:9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

All the water in one place required all the land be in one place.

So what difference does it make where they are found later.

God Bless,

"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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