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Author Topic:   What if Jesus and Satan were real?
Diomedes
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Message 120 of 591 (707381)
09-26-2013 3:02 PM
Reply to: Message 116 by Thugpreacha
09-26-2013 12:50 PM


Re: Exclusive Premise
I am not judging anyone nor claiming anything apart from the premise that there are natural minds and "spiritually enlightened" minds....

But by invoking this premise, aren't you in essence starting your argument with a logical fallacy of the False Dichotomy (or False Dilemma)?


"Our future lies not in our dogmatic past, but in our enlightened present"

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Diomedes
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Message 126 of 591 (707427)
09-27-2013 9:19 AM
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09-26-2013 10:55 PM


Re: Exclusive Premise
granted we dont "know" whether or not there are in fact more arguments than these two. The Bible mentions two types of men...spiritual and natural.. I am choosing to use that scripture as part of my premise

I may be nit-picking, but you probably should state that the above is a hypothetical as part of your broader discussion. By making the statement a 'premise', you are in fact putting forth a factual claim, which I don't think you actually want to do as part of this discussion.


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Message 136 of 591 (707691)
09-30-2013 12:40 PM
Reply to: Message 135 by vimesey
09-30-2013 12:24 PM


Re: Walking Snakes and Living Stones
Absolutely. If Jesus were real, and living today, I find it utterly inconceivable that he would, for example, preach against the principle of healthcare for all, regardless of whether the sick or injured can afford to pay for it.

He would probably also have a lot to say about gun control, income inequality, wars of aggression, Guantanamo Bay, and our skewed political system which favors those that can afford to lobby for what they want at the expense of everyone else.


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