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It looks to me like you made some observations from today's world, like say that Christians are made to look ignorant, and then said that if Jesus and Satan were real, then we should see these observations from today's world that I've made.You've provided no reason why those things follow from the premise.

Okay, whatever. But you still haven't provided an argument for why any of those items in your list would be true if Jesus and Satan were real.

How do you know which of Jesus' teachings were meant for those people back then and which ones were meant for us today? That's because of the behavior of its proponents... That god is kind of a jerk.

That sounds like something you'd get from a fundy cult..."Listen, this is going to be really hard to believe, and if you think about then you're probably not going to, so don't think about it and just accept it on faith that its true"No, Phat, that's terrible advice. He'll still have the power to reach you. Being afraid of knowledge leading you from God, and therefore avoiding it to save faith, has got to be one of the most crippling disabilities that you can give to yourself.God gave you a brain. Use it.

How do you know that it is God that you are trusting?

Weird. What's that like?You just know because you know? How do you know?Not why do you know.

Editing isn't helpful...If you're reviewing what you wrote, don't submit it yet. (or just use Notepad to type the shit up into and then copy it into the browser later)If you're responding to what I wrote, use a new message and don't edit....with the intent of helping, honestly. Physically? Does it tickle, or is it heavy?The question is 'how do you know?'. That doesn't matter to me. But I am a Theist and a Christian, to break the ice. I'm not, don't assume about me. And I agree that there is no knowledge in God. I don't care about atheism.

Now we are cross-posting, zigzagging our responses over time. Let's just stick to the other responses, ok? Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Off-topic banner.

That's the reason that you think you know. That still doesn't tell me how you know. Okay, let's say that you are standing in a box. You can feel the force pushing you towards the bottom. How do you know that it is gravity?Now consider that you may be in one of these contraptions: (click to enlarge)How would you find out that it wasn't actually gravity that you are feeling?Well, you'd have to step outside of the box. As long as you remain in the box, you are unable to distinguish between gravity and artificial weight.The same goes for revelation. You have to step outside the box and see the whole picture to determine if what you think you know is correct. And if you find that the knowledge that has been revealed to you is in error, then you can be assured that it is not from God.If you've received a revelation that Genesis is confirmed by science, then that information could not have come from God. Genesis is utterly refuted by science.If Satan is real, how do you know that your revelation did not come from him? How do you know that it came from God?Remember, you have to step outside of the Bible. I don't doubt that you can find internal consistency in there, but that doesn't lead you to truth. Just like staying in the box and feeling the artificial weight would make you think it was gravity.Besides, there's plenty of fiction that is internally consistent. If you can't step outside of the box, then you can't get past the fact that you might be living in The Matrix. That answers are easier to remain perfect if they're kept within the internal consistency rather than pulling them outside of the box and checking to see if the answers actually work.If you've concluded through revelation that Genesis is confirmed by science, then you have not stepped outside of the box... because that is clearly wrong.That revelation could not have come from God, but if Satan is real then it could have came from him.

So I was right in Message 249:You know because you know.When you know, you just know you know, because you know, you know?But again, that's just saying why you know.Its not saying how you know. Or how you know that you know. I don't like to get into the particulars either.What you are essentially saying, is that God singled you out and miraculously made you know that you know that it was Him.But the question remains, how do you know that it was God that did that?How do you know it wasn't something else? Like, Satan or whatever.I mean, you said it happened after you tested God. Maybe you opened your self up to other influences too, no? Isn't that possible?If Satan was real, don't you think that he'd be trying to sway people? Wouldn't those looking to be swayed be an easier target?

I dunno, man, you're kind of a dick.

Case in point.Oh, and you can say shit and ass here.

Well that was a dumb thing to say.

Every time you submit text into this forum you are saying something, ya dingus. Or are you gonna go the route of none of this stuff being protected by the First Amendment because we're not literally "speaking"? And please, for the love of blowjobs, do not provide an argument via dictionary. They're descriptive, not proscriptive. When Michael Jackson sang that song Bad, he was not saying that he was of low or poor quality, even thought that is the definition of the word.How could you not know this stuff? Wow, you're prejudiced too? I notice that you edited out the line from your previous message (ABE: my mistake, that's still there in a more recent message) where you said that you didn't feel like you had to be nice to me because the other Christians you've encountered have told you that you were going to hell. Do you also cross the street to avoid black people?And just so you understand what I'm saying, since you cannot see past the literal meanings of words, prejudice is that act of pre-judging someone before you get to know them. It would be like me seeing that picture in your avatar and saying that since you've got that flimsy posture with your ass pushed out and have a creepy molester mustache, then you must be a homosexual and therefore you're a cocksucker. But I'm not gonna do that, because I'm not prejudiced like you are.Anyways, this topic is about what if Jesus and Satan were real.If Satan was real, then he would send bigoted queer pedants to post inane stuff on this forum in an attempt to test the faith of the good Christian folks that are here.Edited by Catholic Scientist, : see ABE

At least I know that squaring a circle has nothing to do with the law of identity.