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Author Topic:   What if Jesus and Satan were real?
Archer Opteryx
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Message 435 of 591 (727282)
05-17-2014 1:51 AM


Provincial deity
I notice a provincialism in the OP. I would have let it pass but for the author maintaining the perspective in more recent comments.

The OP asserts that adherents of certain religions 'appear' a certain way. It attempts to draw conclusions from this. But how people of this or that belief system 'appear' is a function of perspective. Where is one standing? What are one's measures? Where is the light? What message board are you on?

In recent days much has been made here of the situation in one country. It's as if a deity that reigned over (at least) an entire universe would have some special sentimental attachment to that one piece of real estate among many on a single planet. That's how a mortal OP author in one country thinks. That's not how an impartial, fair-minded transcendent immortal cosmic mind would think.

Until that limited perspective is shown to be objectively more valid than thousands of other possible perspectives, it is useless to reason based on how religions 'appear'. All religions appear all kinds of ways to all kinds of people.

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Edited by Archer Opteryx, : typo


Archer O

All species are transitional.


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Archer Opteryx
Member (Idle past 1855 days)
Posts: 1811
From: East Asia
Joined: 08-16-2006


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Message 436 of 591 (727283)
05-17-2014 2:03 AM
Reply to: Message 434 by Blue
05-16-2014 11:24 PM


Re: Satan
Blue writes:

God is judging the wicked because God permitted their life.

'I'll save you if you believe' is a strange way to run a universe.

You're on a lifeboat picking up survivors from a maritime disaster. Do you ask them to believe your boat is seaworthy before extending them an oar? No. You haul them aboard.

If an all-powerful deity wants to rescue everyone, they're rescued.

The 'you must believe' talk doesn't sound like a cosmic deity. It sounds like human beings trying to sell something to other human beings.

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Edited by Archer Opteryx, : brevity


Archer O

All species are transitional.


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Archer Opteryx
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Message 512 of 591 (727425)
05-18-2014 9:12 AM
Reply to: Message 504 by Blue
05-17-2014 8:55 PM


Re: Satan
Blue writes:

We do need to keep his commandments but that doesn't mean we are not free. You get to choose. Yes there is judgement if you break them but it is still freedom to choose.

It's a strange way to run a universe.


Archer O

All species are transitional.


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