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Author Topic:   There you Go,YECs...biblical "evidence" of "flat earth beliefs"
anastasia
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Message 180 of 243 (391180)
03-23-2007 7:00 PM
Reply to: Message 175 by ringo
03-23-2007 6:12 PM


Ringo writes:
What we do know is that he described the earth as if it was flat.
What we do know is that no one can see the 'ends of the earth' whether it be round or flat, from one vantage point. Maybe in this vision there were ends of the earth. But barring that speculation, from the fact that Daniel could not see the ends or anything nearly like them, and thus could not say that a tree actually covered them, it would seem, to lowly me, that this must be metaphor.

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anastasia
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Message 182 of 243 (391184)
03-23-2007 7:08 PM
Reply to: Message 178 by Mikael Fivel
03-23-2007 6:56 PM


I agree with you that because these type of phrases are tossed around in our language to this day, there is no evidence that Daniel was not using common nonsense phrases then. We say 'our whole heart' and 'the ends of time' merely to describe a size, and I don't know if Daniel had any idea of the actual shape of the earth just from this.
But, you say he did not repeat 'ends of the earth'.
I do not see the point. If he later said 'whole earth' wouldn't this include the same ends? The tree would be visible to everyone anyway if the earth was flat and the tree covered it. So why would he need to repeat the 'ends' part again anyway?

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anastasia
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Message 184 of 243 (391188)
03-23-2007 7:12 PM
Reply to: Message 181 by ringo
03-23-2007 7:04 PM


Ringo writes:
But the tree could only be visible to the whole earth if the whole earth was flat. Everyone could see it only if the earth was flat.
Haha! I see I am imagining a whole different tree than you are. In my mind, everyone could see the tree if the width of its branches covered the entire earth, even if that earth was round. In your mind, the height of the tree is what is making it so visible, no?

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