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Author Topic:   Which Bible is Inerrant?
Philip
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Message 9 of 86 (198396)
04-11-2005 8:44 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Citizzzen
04-11-2005 2:34 PM


Re: The books of lists...
OK,
The KJV (and each other version for that matter), especially when read mathamatically (if you will), contains both transcriptional and translational errors. Yet I believe my KJV is precisely inerrant with the surreal truths it portrays to much of the English speaking population.
At the cross, for example:
Matt. and Mark state Christ's last words as "My God, my God why hast thou forsaken me"
Luke states: "Father into thy hands I commend my spirit"
John: "It is Finished"
Also the cross' encription: "King of the Jews" is stated differently by each of the fab four.
Resurrection and ascension events are also stated differently: e.g., Mark states Christ was "received" up, Luke "carried" up, John "ascended" up.
But together they portray a total picture of what goes on when a Redeemer redeems sinners from sin. That picture is inerrant.
Now a passionate redeeming portrait-painter knows that his inspired portrait is not a sum of the parts, rather it is an irreducible complexity, a gestalt, a collaboration of strokes, emotions, ideas, associations, and other metaphysical aspects, that cannot possibly be broken into mere empirical components.
Many of God's transcriptional and/or translational utterances may appear erroneous while the excellent metaphysical product produced by them is indeed inerrant, KJV or otherwise.
The question I ask you is: What ultimate truth per se do you perceive (or apperceive) is inerrant?
If you deny the existence of redemptive events, than the Bible is just another book of contradictions (like macro-evolutionism). But, if you truly experience blessed redemptive events in your life, then, a conservative Bible may become inerrant for you.
Don't get me wrong, I'm a sinner like the rest of you evos and evangies, probably the chiefest. But my Bible didn't become inerrant until "eating crow".
Do any of you want to proudly declare you have not sinned? Inerrant are you? Who here does not require redemptive events, anyway? I surely require them!

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Philip
Member (Idle past 4744 days)
Posts: 656
From: Albertville, AL, USA
Joined: 03-10-2002


Message 13 of 86 (202777)
04-26-2005 6:58 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Citizzzen
04-12-2005 10:30 PM


Re: You say error, I say mistake...
(Late in responding)
I appreciate your kind reply. Due to time constraints allow me to respond to you statement:
"ability to look past typos and find meaning"
Written words everywhere have various typos (methinks). With regard to origins, "typos" and/or "errors" abound in the imperfect medium of communication. An "apple" is different (for example) to every person no matter how it is described scientifically. There seems to me to be no absolute reality to an apple, i.e., what it really is. An apple's biochemical makeup is just one tiny aspect of the thing.
Time would fail to describe an apple's existence. Perhaps the world could not contain the quantity of books required to describe an apple in every detail. Even then, I don't think I'd have the brains to understand it all.
My personal Bible is analogous. I try to take the Bible to be what Christ stated (i.e., with regard to Noah, Adam, the garden, etc.), due to my extreme faith-bias(es) and hope(s) thereof.
Peace

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