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Dr Adequate
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Message 13 of 161 (365320)
11-22-2006 6:39 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by Juraikken
11-22-2006 3:20 AM


if i am not to believe a little bit of it, then i might as well not believe any of it.
You don't explain your reasoning.
the bible is completely true
Proof?

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Dr Adequate
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Message 21 of 161 (365447)
11-22-2006 3:37 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Juraikken
11-22-2006 12:46 PM


Re: Answers
hmm very interesting argument. i could also argue that point for evolution.....
But not accurately.
yes, actually i can. in the creation of the bible, it took so much time and dedication to bring it together, lots of books denied God's authority so were tossed out, why? well hmm i think there were also people who HATED God and his love so they wrote about their hatred. anyway any books that denied God's power, love, and Jesus' sacrificed were tossed out of the bible.
Have you actually read any of the books not included?
Some of them are magnificent.
But it is evident that any book which "denied God's power", et cetera, wouldn't even be considered for inclusion.
simple, all aspects of the bible agree with eachother! there is none that contradict, so i would assume the puzzles fit perfectly fine.
Have you ever read the book of Ecclesiastes?
if some of it is fake, then ALL of it is fake!
That's not reasoning, that's asserting the thing to be proved.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Message 22 of 161 (365451)
11-22-2006 3:50 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by Joman
11-22-2006 2:30 PM


I believe that the AV Bible is the written word of God to the English speaking people of the earth.
Do you mean to the exclusion of other Bibles?
Any particular edition?
I know it is the word of God because it is accurate.
So's the phone book.
I know that any new book isn't part of the AV Bible because the AV Bible testifies that it is a completed book. As such no one is authorized to change it's words nor add to them.
EVERY version of the Bible "testifies that it's a completed book", if by that you mean it contains Revelation 22:18-19.
I would know regardless because lies always contradict the truth. And, knowledge of the truth exposes lies. Thus, anything contrary to the AV Bible is false. Or, the AV Bible isn't the word of God.
Well, I'm glad you realize the alternative.
Furthermore, as a Christian I have a unction in my inner man that guides me into all truth.
Does it follow from this that anyone who disagrees with your views about the AV is not a Christian?
If I lack knowledge then as a Christian I must rely on the teachers who God approves to help me.
How do you identify the teachers whom God approves?
The Holy Spirit, the AV Bible, my own spirit and the testimony of others all work toward affirming my belief's.
Does it follow that anyone who doesn't agree with you about the AV does not have the Holy Spirit?

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Message 25 of 161 (365544)
11-23-2006 5:13 AM
Reply to: Message 24 by ReverendDG
11-23-2006 3:32 AM


Re: Answers
what difference would it make if they left out revelations? its not even in most of the bibles up to the kjv
Not so. The Canon of the New Testament was fixed by the end of the fourth century, when St Jerome translated the Vulgate; the Apocalypse of John has been in the canon ever since.

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Message 32 of 161 (404430)
06-08-2007 8:54 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by pelican
06-08-2007 8:39 PM


Re: truth about bible?
I have read many books and never have I asked in my summing up of a book, "Is this book true?"
Why not?
I have.

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Message 124 of 161 (407059)
06-23-2007 10:02 PM
Reply to: Message 118 by Psalm148
06-22-2007 11:42 PM


Pythagoras. Perhaps this can prove a point. I've never really heard of this guy. Your everyday Joe has probably never heard of him at all.
His doctrine is taught to schoolchildren worldwide, and has earned wider credence than Christianity.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Message 156 of 161 (407393)
06-26-2007 1:51 AM
Reply to: Message 139 by Psalm148
06-24-2007 2:40 PM


KJV?
I could be wrong, but I think the KJV and others in its style are the most widely used Canon, so it would make sense for it to be the one God chose because he wants all to come to him, and for them to do that, they need something to go by.
The problem with this line of reasoning is that when the KJV was being written, and for a while afterwards, it was not the most widely used translation. So if its widespread use is a valid argument for it now, it would have been an argument against it when it was written. Indeed, arguments along these lines were put forward; this is from the Translators' Preface to the KJV:
"Many men's mouths have been open a good while (and yet are not stopped) with speeches about the translation so long in hand, or rather perusals of translations made before: and ask what may be the reason, what the necessity of the employment.
Hath the Church been deceived, say they, all this while?
"

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