Noah's Flood Came Down. It's Goin Back Up!!

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Ned really gave you the answer already, but let me try.The continents are made on average of less dense material so they sit on top of the oceanic crust. They float on top of it like iceburgs, as NosyNed said. As the oceanic crust moves, the continents move with it, until they crash into each other.I'm not sure what smoothing effect you are envisioning. Perhaps you think the continents grind across the ocean floor, loosing mass as they go, the way chalk gets smaller and smaller as you grind it across the sidewalk?------------------
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1. We are experiencing global warming.

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Ok. The planet's climate has fluctuated wildly over it lifetime. What we are seeing now is mild and there are some very good non-metaphysical reasons for what is happening.

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2. Our weather is coming up with many new records so far as violent stuff goes. I'm almost 68, and I know there's been big time change in incidence of tornados and violent weather than when I was young.

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Please note that we have only been recording such events accurately for less than a hundred years. Breaking records is easy when you first start playing the game. Anything, basically, is a record. The point is, we don't really know the norm is for storm cycles.Also think about this. Are you considering local phenomena or global averages? In other words, Oklahoma could have a thousand more than their average number of tornados this year but if the rest of the world has fewer than average, you can't say that the number of storms per year is increasing.Another thing to think about is the proportion of fair to foul weather. If some regions are experiencing an increase of foul weather, are some other regions experiencing an increase of fair weather? If so, you can't say that bad weather is trumping the good. All that has happened is that the weather patterns have changed, but not for good or ill.

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3. The prophet John, in Revelation predicted a third of the trees to be burnt up. He also predicted a three and a half year period of extreme drought on the earth involving two powerful prophets of God to emerge on the scene.

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I don't see a third of the trees being burned, nor do I see a worldwide drought, nor do I see two prophets. Are we to talk about something that isn't happening?

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4. In spite of much better equipment and prevention techniques, a great increase in forest fires.

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Sorry. No dice. Forest fires are normal. We notice because we are now in the way.

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5. Drought conditions seem to be steadily increasing world wide.

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There are a lot of regions suffering drought. Does this mean drought is increasing or does it mean that for the first time we can track such things? I'd bet on the latter. Drought has always been a problem. True, one can get thousands of returns by searching for 'world drought.' But try searching for 'record rainfall.' Thousands of returns there too.

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6. With big time evaporation from drought the prediction of the prophets of the darkening of the atmosphere could become a reality as moisture accumulates upstairs.

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Moisture that accumulates in the atmosphere comes back down as rain, or some other form of precipitation. It doesn't just accumulate forever.

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7 The hint of a meteor hitting an ocean wiping out a third of the ships, if fulfilled, could alter the earth's position in it's orbit, it would seem. This may also work to trigger new weather patterns on the planet.

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Again, we are to talk about something that hasn't happened? Besides, a meteor probably would alter the Earth's orbit. Any impact, technically, alters the orbit. But a meteor big enough to noticably alter the Earth's orbit would be big enough to qualify as a 'planet killer.' There would be nothing left alive to notice the altered weather patterns.

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8. The planet is beginning to look more and more like it could indeed experience the prophesied phenomena.

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Or not. All you've said is 'maybe it might happen.' Sorry, I'm not convinced.

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9. Drought to the extent of evaporating much of the oceans would most assuredly precipitate the worldwide earthquakes predicted in Revelation and other prophetic scriptures.

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Wow... where to begin?Drought won't evaporate anywhere near the volume of the oceans, because long before the oceans disappear the atmosphere itself would become liquid and consequently fall back to the ground and refill the oceans. Why do you think that most of the water on Earth can be suspended in the air? Why do you think rain falls? Rain falls because the water content of the local atmosphere becomes so great that the water droplets crash together and fall down. This all happens at a fraction of the saturation you are suggesting.Earthquakes originate where crustal plate interact.

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10. Nuclear warfare and accidents may factor in here as well as industrial pollution.

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So will interpret anything as fulfilling the prophecy, then?

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11. I've said the above to say that the terrarium canopy, believed to be on the planet before the flood by many Biblicalists could return to create the conditions prophesied about the "plowman overtaking the reaper," and so forth for the time of the messianic millenium of the messiah, Jesus who will return to earth "with clouds."

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Your idea has everything going for it that the terrarium canopy idea has-- absolutely nothing.------------------
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Imo, nothing like our day. Ozone problems never before, etc.

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Of course, you don't really know much about our planet's past climates do you? Have you looked into any of the evidence? There are a lot of people working on this issue.Considering that we just started monitoring ozone in 1956 or so, we don't really know what is normal.

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Believe me, the world hasn't been so sparcly populated for a loooooong time that biggy tornadoes would go un-noticed and unmentioned.

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I am talking about communication and accurate data gathering, not population.

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They're so common place today that most are only reported in the nations and areas where they occur.

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So? If this is the case the information ought to be out there. Have you checked? Or do you just assume?

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We hear little to nothing abour tornadoes in Africa, but if they're happening here they gotta be happening over there too.

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This makes no sense at all. The fact that a tornado occurs in Texas does not mean that a tornado must also occur in Canada, or China, or anywhere else.

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It's floods, fires and much more.

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And lions and tigers and bears, oh my!History is full of this stuff. You have to do more than claim that more disasters are happening now than ever. You have to back it up. One major obstacle is that what happened in the past was recorded haphazardly. You can't compare what was written by a single Roman writer living in Greece, say, with what was written by a writer with access to a global database.

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If you were around 300 years ago, you wouldn't see voices and pictures flying through space originating in Seattle to be almost instantly landing in another's living room in a little box in NY either would you?

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So? Three hundred years ago we could not have known these things were going to come about either. But this is just a diversion...

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Did I say forest fires are abnormal??

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I don't think you realize how frequent forest fires were prior to our efforts to put them out.------------------
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Could someone please remind us how the diversion into prophecy ties into the thread's topic?

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The topic was started on a prophetic note. Strange as it seems, this diversion into prophecy is pretty much on topic for THIS discussion of Noah's flood. EvC Forum: Noah's Flood Came Down. It's Goin Back Up!!------------------
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I understand that, but with the amount of heat indicated in the prophecies, it would seem that the vapor would rise higher than has been yet observed.

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Water vapor has been found in deep space. How much higher do you want? At first reading of this message, I thought you were arguing for the evaporation of the planet's water. This could happen if the temperatures grew hot enough. Global warming isn't going to do it though. It would take, say, a change in the Sun's temperature.But then the following left me perplexed:

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If and when this is accomplished, the vapor canopy would likely tend to normalize the excessive heat that caused it to rise.

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If the water boils off, there isn't going to be a canopy. The water will escape into deep space. That is the only way you could get rid of the oceans. The atmosphere won't hold that much water. You also seem to want a 'normal' world after this catastrophe. I'm thinking perhaps, a second Garden of Eden? Well, if you boil off the oceans, you won't be left with that either. Think: Mars.------------------
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Sure it will! Just heat the whole atmosphere to 700 degrees F and it'll hold a bunch, just like it did right before the Big Flood!

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Heated to 700° the atmosphere will hold how much exactly?What I am thinking is that temperatures high enough to allow that much water to be suspended in the atmosphere would also be high enough that water would be flying right out of the atmosphere, and thus, not suspended in the atmosphere. Of course, I suppose we need to ask Buzsaw how much water, exactly, is supposed to be soon suspended overhead.------------------
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