Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 65 (9162 total)
2 online now:
Newest Member: popoi
Post Volume: Total: 915,817 Year: 3,074/9,624 Month: 919/1,588 Week: 102/223 Day: 0/13 Hour: 0/0


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   Missing sea creatures
moronman
Inactive Member


Message 61 of 85 (199322)
04-14-2005 12:56 PM


well do you believe the bible? if so, then i guess that backs up your belief that god hates shrimp, but if you don't believe the bible, then do you really believe god hates shrimp?

Replies to this message:
 Message 63 by arachnophilia, posted 04-14-2005 5:46 PM moronman has not replied

  
arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1344 days)
Posts: 9069
From: god's waiting room
Joined: 05-21-2004


Message 62 of 85 (199405)
04-14-2005 5:45 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by Specter
04-14-2005 12:53 PM


Re: Right On
hahaha.
perhaps you'd be interested in this post,

This message is a reply to:
 Message 60 by Specter, posted 04-14-2005 12:53 PM Specter has not replied

  
arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1344 days)
Posts: 9069
From: god's waiting room
Joined: 05-21-2004


Message 63 of 85 (199406)
04-14-2005 5:46 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by moronman
04-14-2005 12:56 PM


well do you believe the bible?
yes and no.
but if you don't believe the bible, then do you really believe god hates shrimp?
no, don't be silly. god made shrimp.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 61 by moronman, posted 04-14-2005 12:56 PM moronman has not replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 64 by jar, posted 04-14-2005 5:53 PM arachnophilia has not replied
 Message 65 by Specter, posted 04-18-2005 10:08 AM arachnophilia has replied

  
jar
Member (Idle past 394 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 64 of 85 (199410)
04-14-2005 5:53 PM
Reply to: Message 63 by arachnophilia
04-14-2005 5:46 PM


Yeah but I still ain't convinced
he made Okra. If he did it was late on the sixth day and he said, "That's good enough for God-work. Let the weekend shift get the slime out."
ps: and left them to do the padding on shins and your funny-bone and fix the itch in the middle of your back where even GOD can't reach.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

This message is a reply to:
 Message 63 by arachnophilia, posted 04-14-2005 5:46 PM arachnophilia has not replied

  
Specter
Inactive Member


Message 65 of 85 (200075)
04-18-2005 10:08 AM
Reply to: Message 63 by arachnophilia
04-14-2005 5:46 PM


Shrimp are abominable
Shrimp is an abomination, but it would we downright idiotic if we kiled them off. you see, shrimp belong to a "class" (can't believe I'm writing this) of animals called "scavengers." God made scavengers after the fall to eat the dead, rotting flesh of animals and vegetation to no further pollute and desecrate the earth. If you took a bomb (let's not debate about my means, here - it's the thought that counts) and killed all the shrimp on God's green earth, then our ecosystems and our lives would be out of balance.
And that's another reason not to eat shrimp.
This message has been edited by Specter, 04/18/2005 09:09 AM
This message has been edited by Specter, 04/19/2005 08:46 AM

This message is a reply to:
 Message 63 by arachnophilia, posted 04-14-2005 5:46 PM arachnophilia has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 66 by arachnophilia, posted 04-18-2005 6:34 PM Specter has replied
 Message 67 by macaroniandcheese, posted 04-18-2005 7:02 PM Specter has not replied
 Message 68 by Monk, posted 04-18-2005 7:43 PM Specter has not replied
 Message 69 by Coragyps, posted 04-18-2005 8:11 PM Specter has not replied

  
arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1344 days)
Posts: 9069
From: god's waiting room
Joined: 05-21-2004


Message 66 of 85 (200204)
04-18-2005 6:34 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by Specter
04-18-2005 10:08 AM


Re: Shrimp are abominable
God mad escavengers after the fall to eat the dead, rotting flesh of animals and vegetation to no further pollute and desecrate the earth.
if god makes stuff post-fall, how is that different than say, evolution?
also, i theologically disagree with "the fall." biblical evidence shows adam and eve to have been mortal in the garden.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 65 by Specter, posted 04-18-2005 10:08 AM Specter has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 71 by Specter, posted 04-19-2005 9:49 AM arachnophilia has replied

  
macaroniandcheese 
Suspended Member (Idle past 3928 days)
Posts: 4258
Joined: 05-24-2004


Message 67 of 85 (200212)
04-18-2005 7:02 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by Specter
04-18-2005 10:08 AM


Re: Shrimp are abominable
if he created stuff after the fall then he didn't create the world in 6 days.
plus. all animals consume living things. how can you say there was no death before the fall.
hi um plants are alive.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 65 by Specter, posted 04-18-2005 10:08 AM Specter has not replied

  
Monk
Member (Idle past 3924 days)
Posts: 782
From: Kansas, USA
Joined: 02-25-2005


Message 68 of 85 (200218)
04-18-2005 7:43 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by Specter
04-18-2005 10:08 AM


Re: Shrimp are abominable
Shrimp may be an abomination, but they sure are tasty on the grill with butter and garlic sauce.
Pass the abomination please?

This message is a reply to:
 Message 65 by Specter, posted 04-18-2005 10:08 AM Specter has not replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 70 by arachnophilia, posted 04-18-2005 8:17 PM Monk has not replied

  
Coragyps
Member (Idle past 735 days)
Posts: 5553
From: Snyder, Texas, USA
Joined: 11-12-2002


Message 69 of 85 (200229)
04-18-2005 8:11 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by Specter
04-18-2005 10:08 AM


Re: Shrimp are abominable
shrimp belong to a "class" (can't believe I'm writing this) of animals called "scavengers."
Oh? There sure are a bunch of shrimps that are carnivores.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 65 by Specter, posted 04-18-2005 10:08 AM Specter has not replied

  
arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1344 days)
Posts: 9069
From: god's waiting room
Joined: 05-21-2004


Message 70 of 85 (200232)
04-18-2005 8:17 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by Monk
04-18-2005 7:43 PM


Re: Shrimp are abominable
Shrimp may be an abomination, but they sure are tasty on the grill with butter and garlic sauce.
Pass the abomination please?
HEATHEN! STRAIGHT TO HELL WITH YOU!!!
(can i have some too?)

This message is a reply to:
 Message 68 by Monk, posted 04-18-2005 7:43 PM Monk has not replied

  
Specter
Inactive Member


Message 71 of 85 (200327)
04-19-2005 9:49 AM
Reply to: Message 66 by arachnophilia
04-18-2005 6:34 PM


Post-Fall
And where can I find that biblical proof? Please educate me.
And besides, didn't I say:
...let's not debate...
Now, someone said:
plus. all animals consume living things. how can you say there was no death before the fall.
hi um plants are alive.
Good point. Maybe I'll rethink the post-antediluvian creationalism-NOT!!! Didn't GOd create rainbows the say after the flood?
Coragyps also said:
Oh? There sure are a bunch of shrimps that are carnivores.
Heaven no. The only shrimp that are carnivoruos are shrimp that eat plankton. And if I'm right, Shrimp eat phytoplankton which are infected with pollutants and infested with tinier marine animals and worms. The same is true with the pig. Scavengers may be scavengers without meaning to be. The lobster and catfish would tell you the same, and no "I'm hellbound" person will be saved.(Trust me)
Isn't that scary, evos.
This message has been edited by Specter, 04/19/2005 09:00 AM

This message is a reply to:
 Message 66 by arachnophilia, posted 04-18-2005 6:34 PM arachnophilia has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 72 by Loudmouth, posted 04-19-2005 3:54 PM Specter has not replied
 Message 73 by arachnophilia, posted 04-19-2005 5:51 PM Specter has not replied
 Message 80 by Lithodid-Man, posted 01-21-2006 1:36 AM Specter has replied

  
Loudmouth
Inactive Member


Message 72 of 85 (200440)
04-19-2005 3:54 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by Specter
04-19-2005 9:49 AM


Re: Post-Fall
quote:
And where can I find that biblical proof? Please educate me.
While we're at it, can you show us the biblical proof that shrimp were created post-Fall? Can you even present physical evidence that this supposed Fall occurred?

This message is a reply to:
 Message 71 by Specter, posted 04-19-2005 9:49 AM Specter has not replied

  
arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1344 days)
Posts: 9069
From: god's waiting room
Joined: 05-21-2004


Message 73 of 85 (200472)
04-19-2005 5:51 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by Specter
04-19-2005 9:49 AM


Re: Post-Fall
And besides, didn't I say:...let's not debate...
hi. welcome to a DEBATE board. we debate anything and everything here, and this *IS* the correct thread for it, in the correct forum.
now, i disagree with the fall theologically. there is no evidence of any "fall" of any kind, only a set of curses given to adam, eve, and the serpent, that are presumably heriditary (all snakes go about on their bellies).
furthermore, the evidence in genesis 3 suggests that there was death prior to the fall. god is worried about them eating from the tree of life, so they would live forever and become gods. this tells us that they hadn't already, and were mortal to begin with.
furthermore, there is debate as to whether the effects of the tree of knowlegde were hereditary. there is no reason they should be seen as such according to the text, although there are some neet modern symbolic interpretations that rely on it. (for instance, the birth of conciousness).
"original sin" is a silly concept as well, since numerous people in the bible are described as perfect in the eyes of god. and to sin, we must know the path we are missing which would require -- the tree of knowledge of good and evil. how were they to know the difference before?
Good point. Maybe I'll rethink the post-antediluvian creationalism-NOT!!! Didn't GOd create rainbows the say after the flood?
rainbows are not animals. and i suspect the laws of refraction were already in place well before the flood, and that god just used it as a sign.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 71 by Specter, posted 04-19-2005 9:49 AM Specter has not replied

  
Specter
Inactive Member


Message 74 of 85 (200666)
04-20-2005 9:40 AM


Arachnophilia writes:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Shrimp may be an abomination, but they sure are tasty on the grill with butter and garlic sauce.
Pass the abomination please?
HEATHEN! STRAIGHT TO HELL WITH YOU!!!
(can i have some too?)
Hahaha. You're Funny.
Well, If I can't have what I want, then I'll debate for it.
And besides, didn't I say:...let's not debate...
hi. welcome to a DEBATE board. we debate anything and everything here, and this *IS* the correct thread for it, in the correct forum.
now, i disagree with the fall theologically. there is no evidence of any "fall" of any kind, only a set of curses given to adam, eve, and the serpent, that are presumably heriditary (all snakes go about on their bellies).
Now, I know you disagreee with the "fall" idea, but you must understand that when I say "fall", I don't mean that Adam and Eve were immortal and became mortal beings. I mean the connection wit hGod was severed so wickedly that face-to-face contact was voided, for it would destroy us sinful beings.
And to clarify some things:shrimp were not created after the fall. They became a delicacy (gulp!) after the fall.
This message has been edited by Specter, 04/20/2005 08:41 AM

Replies to this message:
 Message 75 by arachnophilia, posted 09-15-2005 12:58 AM Specter has not replied

  
arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1344 days)
Posts: 9069
From: god's waiting room
Joined: 05-21-2004


Message 75 of 85 (243642)
09-15-2005 12:58 AM
Reply to: Message 74 by Specter
04-20-2005 9:40 AM


Now, I know you disagreee with the "fall" idea, but you must understand that when I say "fall", I don't mean that Adam and Eve were immortal and became mortal beings. I mean the connection wit hGod was severed so wickedly that face-to-face contact was voided, for it would destroy us sinful beings.
no, i mean, i disagree with it TOTALLY. there's lots of face-to-face contact with god throughout the book of genesis, well after the supposed "fall." god wrestles jacob in the desert. god appears to abraham.
the apparent "severed connection" doesn't seem to have been severed at all. not even a little.
And to clarify some things:shrimp were not created after the fall. They became a delicacy (gulp!) after the fall.
not for adam and eve they didn't. no one before noah was allowed to eat meat. and even in moses's time, people weren't allowed to eat shrimp either. in fact, jews STILL aren't.
so yeah, that'd be WAY after the fall.
(also, people tend to overlook responses for a few months if you don't use the little red reply button. i only noticed because jar linked to it in a response to a new thread)

אָרַח

This message is a reply to:
 Message 74 by Specter, posted 04-20-2005 9:40 AM Specter has not replied

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024