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Author Topic:   Claims of God Being Omnipotent in the Bible
Tal
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Message 3 of 381 (173973)
01-05-2005 3:47 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by GreyOwl
01-03-2005 11:25 AM


Enter the "Can God make a rock so big He can't move it." argument?

There is no passage that I'm aware of that specifically says omnipotant/omniscient. It is inferred from other passages.

26Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”

There are things that God can't do, theologically.

For instance, He can't lie. Whether or nto that affects his power base is subject to debate.


Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!" Isaiah 6:8
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Tal
Member (Idle past 4333 days)
Posts: 1140
From: Fort Bragg, NC
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Message 7 of 381 (174309)
01-06-2005 4:43 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by Brian
01-05-2005 12:11 PM


Re: Yahweh speaks with forked tongue
There are many examples of God lying, one is in Genesis 2:17.

but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die

They surely died.

Another one is in Deuteronomy 13:1-3

If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a miraculous sign or wonder, and if the sign or wonder of which he has spoken takes place, and he says, "Let us follow other gods" (gods you have not known) "and let us worship them," you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The LORD your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul.

Need some clarification on this one.


Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!" Isaiah 6:8
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Tal
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Message 16 of 381 (174931)
01-08-2005 1:45 AM
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01-06-2005 3:59 PM


Re: Yahweh speaks with forked tongue
Everyone surely dies.

But, they did not die the day that they ate the fruit, Adam lived for 930 years, so he hardly died the day he ate the fruit.

Where did God say you will die the day you eat the fruit? Before eating the fruit, there was no death. After eating the fruit, there was death.

Remember, a prophet is so called because he/she speaks God’s words, God puts words in their mouth. Whether the prophet is in on the ruse is not known, which really wouldn’t make much difference anyway.

Those are called false prophets, and they are/were much more common than real prophets.


Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!" Isaiah 6:8
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