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From: PA, USA
Um... what was the topic?
|The only thing necessary to receive forgiveness for ones wrong doing is to “believes in (trusts in, clings to, relies on)” Jesus as your savior.|
Actually the only thing necessary to receive forgiveness for ones wrong doing is to repent...
Oh -- I thought the only thing necessary to receive forgiveness was to give continuous monetary support to your church (and, depending on your choice of church, maybe having to say some particular prayers, or prayers of your choice on a particular topic, or whatever).
Anyway, I thought this thread was in a so-called "science" forum? Has there been anything in this recent discussion that touches on specific references in the bible to the notion of God's omnipotence?
If there's some relation between this notion of "forgiveness" and omnipotence, I'm not able to see it. And of course, while the OP in this thread didn't really give much detail, there is (in my mind) rather a lot that's unclear about what "omnipotence" is really supposed to mean.
If it just means "He can do whatever He wants," that doesn't really help, since part of His "omni-mysteriousness" is the simple fact that we can't even guess (let alone have any real clue) what His specific intentions might be with regard to particular possible outcomes in the future, and any assertion about observed past events being intentional "acts of God" (as opposed to being something else) is frankly nothing more than groundless speculation.
If the assertion of omnipotence is founded on the notion that "everything is according to God's plan," that's not only entirely circular, it's entirely meaningless. It reminds me of this old "news report" from The Onion:
It's silly, but to the point: God Answers Prayers... "No," Says God. Okay, that's a pretty solid case for omnipotence right there, folks. Can't argue with that.
Actually, whether or not there is really any direct biblical justification for asserting God's omni-whatever is irrelevant. The fact that people make these assertions of "omni" attributes, as if they had any meaning at all, is completely absurd regardless where these ideas come from.
autotelic adj. (of an entity or event) having within itself the purpose of its existence or happening.
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