Um, what mercy is being shown? This eternal torture in hell according to the Bible is the fate of the vast majority of humanity is it not?
According to some banned books of the bible (see banned from the bible) those who will go to hell will eventually get out. So shhhhh (don't tell). I'm just kidding. Also some interpret hell in the bible as a place where one dies for good (cease to exist in any form). This too is like an eternal punishment.
But mercy is mercy. Mercy isn't necessarily letting someone get off scott free.
If the courts sentence someone to 50 years instead of 50 years and 1 day then they showed mercy.
God showed mercy by having Jesus die for our sins. Thus we have a better chance to not go to hell than we would if He didn't. This is still mercy no matter how small you think it is.
He didn't? Than why put it there in the first place? This is equivalent of putting a box of matches in front of a toddler and saying do not touch and walking out of the room and returning to find the house burnt down and then punishing the child (if they survive). Where is God's moral responsibility in this act? Is he not the more culpible moral agent in this story not the freshly minted and inexperience persona's of Adam and Eve?
God set this all up in grand scheme of things in order to transform man into the beings He want us to become. He could've have made us that way from the beginning, but that would be equivalent of having a robot worship and love you. If the angels, who were created good, can be wicked then mankind can as well. God knew this and He knew it was just a matter of time before man showed his wickedness. So he knew his grand plan even before it started.
God has supreme power of life and death (we don't), so him putting anything around that can hurt us is okay as long as his will gets accomplished.
As for punishment, God had to set an example. If He didn't (by punishment) then man has absolutely no reason to obey God and all control to transform man is gone. The punishment is just a form of control, mercy, and a transformation device.
And you, yourself do not provide evidence that falsifies this statement as well. So your statment commenting that Brians statements are baseless, are themselves baseless as well. If you want to back up your statement, than you should start a new topic and provide evidence supporting your statements. BTW, if you do I will provide evidence supporting Brian's assertions as well.
Brian was the one making claims, not me. He said that man was already going to die whether he ate from the tree of knowledge or not. I simply asked him to prove this. He didn't. Thus what he said was baseless.
Um, I think Brian was saying that the God (Yahweh, Elohim, El-Shaddai, whatever) of the Bible is a mytholical figure and thus it makes no difference what his actions in the Bible are anyways not that there is a real God and that he actually lied in the book of Genesis.
BTW, there are many other religious books that have some very profound theology and philosophical musings which could be considered on par if not surpass the "intelligence" of the events in the book of Genesis i.e. try reading the Buddhist or Hindu Sutras concerning creation: How is this for being unintilligent?
The excerpt myth you posted is nowhere near as profound as the bible. Nothing is!
With that said, my point was that it is inconsistent for someone to write the the profound book of Genesis and incompetently make such a simple and dumb contradiction (God lying), especially when their purpose was to show that God is both the truthful and the most powerful one.
Edited by h1a8, : No reason given.