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Author Topic:   Claims of God Being Omnipotent in the Bible
NoNukes
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Message 319 of 381 (738259)
10-07-2014 3:48 PM
Reply to: Message 318 by MFFJM2
10-07-2014 1:52 PM


Re: Clay Tablets..?
Sumerian civilization doesn't go back 8,000 years. "Although the earliest forms of writing in the region do not go back much further than c. 3500 BCE, modern historians have suggested that Sumer was first permanently settled between c. 5500 and 4000 BCE by a non-Semitic people who spoke the Sumerian language."

A great rant, but I note that the outer limits of the dates you propose is 7500 years ago and that there is a possibility that some tablets predated the permanent settlement since according to your post the language itself predates 5500 BCE. It seems a bit silly to quibble about an age of 8000 years ago.

Yes, djufo's post is silly, but ...


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei

If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass


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NoNukes
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Message 321 of 381 (738299)
10-08-2014 8:04 AM
Reply to: Message 320 by MFFJM2
10-08-2014 7:48 AM


Re: Clay Tablets..?
pointless

Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei

If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass


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NoNukes
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Message 334 of 381 (738903)
10-17-2014 1:07 PM
Reply to: Message 330 by MFFJM2
10-13-2014 11:15 AM


You don't have an intelligible point. The founding fathers wrote thousands of letters in their own hand. They were observed by thousands of eyewitnesses, who then wrote about their observations. Contemporaneous writers and historians mention and in some cases quote them

I'm pretty sure that djufo's point is neither that he does not believe in George Washington, nor that he requires direct evidence. His point is that all of those contemporary writers are dead. What we have left at this point is writings and artifacts. Yet we all believe in George Washington and disbelieve that the Sumerians were taught by aliens.

So his claim is somewhat more subtle.

Are you incapable of understanding that sworn statements by living witnesses are the least reliable evidence available

While true, I'm not sure what this argument accomplishes.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei

If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass


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NoNukes
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Message 335 of 381 (738910)
10-17-2014 3:33 PM
Reply to: Message 331 by Thugpreacha
10-16-2014 4:46 PM


Re: Unable to meet God due to detached observer status
if they disciplined themselves to stick to critical thinking or would they forever remain uncommitted

Is there anything in your life for which you consider yourself to act critically? In those cases, does acting critically mean waiting until all possible information is in, and only making a decision when you are certain of success? Would this be sound investment advice?

Critical thinking does not mean remaining forever uncommitted. It might at some point mean rethinking a commitment and possibly taking a new course of action.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei

If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass


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NoNukes
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Message 345 of 381 (739005)
10-19-2014 12:53 PM
Reply to: Message 342 by RAZD
10-19-2014 10:13 AM


Re: How to Debate Atheists - with the wrong foot first?
duplicate

Edited by NoNukes, : My posting ability spews chunks


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei

If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass


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NoNukes
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Message 346 of 381 (739006)
10-19-2014 12:54 PM
Reply to: Message 342 by RAZD
10-19-2014 10:13 AM


Re: How to Debate Atheists - with the wrong foot first?
Second you don't start a rational discussion with insulting overtones and innuendo.

What did you consider to be the insults and innuendo? I'm hard pressed to see anything like that in his post or on the first page of his web site.

This is not an accusation. I probably missed something.

So if you do come back, feel free to start a new thread so we can discuss your problems.

Wow RAZD.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei

If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass


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NoNukes
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Message 359 of 381 (739339)
10-22-2014 10:16 PM
Reply to: Message 352 by MFFJM2
10-21-2014 5:39 AM


dupe

Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei

If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass


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NoNukes
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Message 360 of 381 (739340)
10-22-2014 10:18 PM
Reply to: Message 352 by MFFJM2
10-21-2014 5:39 AM


We have eyewitness testimony corroborating these events. The preponderance of the evidence for their existence is overwhelming. Now please apply that same standard to Jesus Christ, for example.

Two things.

First, you yourself denigrated the value of eye witness testimony in your post. Not sure what the purpose is of trying to re-elevate it here.

Second, the comparison at hand is not to Jesus Christ, but to whoever djufo claims informed the Sumerians.

If he meant to use this as an analogy it was poorly constructed.

Which appears to mean only that you missed the point. I think it is quite obvious that djufo was engaging in analogy.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei

If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass


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