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Author Topic:   Claims of God Being Omnipotent in the Bible
Tangle
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Message 329 of 381 (738576)
10-12-2014 2:15 PM
Reply to: Message 328 by djufo
10-12-2014 2:03 PM


djufo writes:

I do not see Washington, I have never seen him in my life, there is no way to prove that he really existed.

Is this the test you apply to all matters requiring 'proof', that you personally have or have not witnessed it?


Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 340 of 381 (738998)
10-19-2014 6:57 AM
Reply to: Message 339 by MikeManea
10-19-2014 6:18 AM


Re: How to Debate Atheists
You need to start a new thread for this and you may get some takers, tho' not many of us can be bothered visiting other sites before debating.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 372 of 381 (820618)
09-24-2017 5:34 PM
Reply to: Message 371 by Thugpreacha
09-24-2017 3:49 PM


Re: Many Are Cold And Few Are Frozen
Phat writes:

I have noticed a pattern--in general--between believers and nonbelievers. Believers by and large want an authority in their lives and/or believe that they need one. Unbelievers seem to by and large think that autonomy is life's greatest gift.

No Phat, you're extending your own beliefs to non-believers, thinking that they must be equal and opposite. Good and evil and all that. God and the devil. Binary. Silly.

Non-believers just get on with it. The majority don't worry about such stuff, it's all just life and we try to make the best of it. It's just nothing that ordinary people think about. It's just....normal and real, like traffic jams and bills.

Autonomy isn't life's greatest gift, life is life's greatest gift.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 374 of 381 (820660)
09-25-2017 4:45 AM
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09-25-2017 3:41 AM


Re: Many Are Cold And Few Are Frozen
Phat writes:

I will incorporate that into my database.

Hmmm. I sense you still don't get it.

Because atheism - and I'd say a agnosticism too - is an absence of belief, it has no analogue with the way a believer thinks and behaves. The way you think about the world and go about your physical life with its churches, meetings, prayer groups, sing-songs, bible readings, evangelisms, aphorisms before dining, God bless America etc etc has no equal with 'us'.

When you try to imagine how it is for us, you get it wrong by thinking it's somehow the opposite of the way it is for you, or that we give the same amount of time and effort to being atheist/agnostic as you do to being a believer. Well we don't - it's just an absence. There's no church, no prayer, no thought process no congregation; nothing to reinforce our non-belief on a daily or hourly basis; there's just life.

Very, very few of us atheist/agnostics spend our time talking and thinking about this stuff - these boards are an aberration. In a day to day existence being atheist is as interesting as not having sugar in your tea.

I think too, that your views are tempered by being in such a strange society, a while back in the USA I got asked in a matter of fact way what church I attended. That's not a question I've ever been asked before in my life. In Northern European countries the assumption is that you're a nice liberal agnostic/atheist.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 376 of 381 (820666)
09-25-2017 6:27 AM
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09-25-2017 6:00 AM


Re: Many Are Cold And Few Are Frozen
Faith writes:

Nobody ever asked me that either when I was an atheist. Were you perhaps in a Southern state, somewhere in the "Bible belt."?

Colarado


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 378 of 381 (820680)
09-25-2017 10:01 AM
Reply to: Message 377 by Thugpreacha
09-25-2017 9:28 AM


Re: Claim Check
It was probably you then.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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