Is Jesus of 'Cursed Lineage'

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BTW, Jesus was not Joseph's son, unless you sensibly reject the virgin birth misunderstanding.

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It is irrelevent, from the pov the OT mandates:'THE SON SHALL NOT PAY FOR THE FATHER NOT THE MOTHER FOR THE SON - ONLY THE SOUL THAT SINNETH IT SHALL PAY'.It never made much sense, how the NT took off with such wild fire, with all its contradictions of the OT it said it represented. Some 250 years later, the contradictions became compounded. Christianity was unable to accept Islam, requiring only Jesus to be manifest as proof - while this same criteria was not accepted in christianity's confrontation with Judaism: there was no Moses to verify what the NT said was now fullfilled and extended to JC.The world has been in chaos ever since, quagmired in unresolvable mutually exclusive paradigms of beliefs. And the situation cannot be cleared or clarified by a re-appearence of either JC or Mohammed, which remain in mutual exclusive mode: only an OT revelation can resolve it. IOW, JC or Mohammed cannot vouch for Moses - but Moses can vouch for either or both of them - however the dice falls. An amazing quandary, but very logical too.Edited by IamJoseph, : No reason given.

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Therefore through ONE of these lineages Jesus is not of the cursed lineage.

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Care to explain the term 'cursed' here?

Well, all of it to be honest. I don't know the day or hour. But since Moshiac ben Yosef has completed his mission as the suffering servant, all that is left is the coronation ceremony for Mashiac ben David. All of this has nothing to do with the Hebrew Bible. Well possibly the coronation ceremony for David's descendant but the two concepts you have linked are not related.Where is it written, for example, that the messiah will suffer? The idea of the messiah suffering is not a part of Judaism or the Hebrew Bible. I read it, and it is more of the same really. Small parts of the Hebrew Bible ripped out of context and dressed up to say what you want it to say. However, you seem to have misunderstood the Jewish concept of the Messiah, and you have taken non-messianic prophecies and made them in to messianic. Indeed.But you go on about Jesus being concieved by spirit and other things, but according to Judaism and the Hebrew Bible the messiah will be nothing other than human, with human parents, the concept of God in an Earth suit is nowhere suggested in the Hebrew Bible. It is a reflection on David's ancestry.Is Micah 5:2 in parenthesis in your Bible?

I have no idea what your post is trying to address.Sorry abut that but could you perhaps explain a little more?

Well I happen to read through most comments around the lineage of Jesus. I believe that what is questionable is not only the genealogy but a lot of other issues such as the mention of Joseph who only is mentioned in a few scriptures and we hear nothing else of him thereon. I belive that if it were to be my father at least he would contribute in one way or the other in the biblical writings. It is so surprising that we hear nothing he says about his "adopted" son and his growing up.

Joseph is only needed as a plot device to get Mary to Bethlehem and to avoid her being a single mother. Saying more about him would only detract from the premise that he was not Jesus' real father.Welcome to EvC.

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I am refering to the cursed by G-d lineage of Jeconiah.
It seems apparent that only one lineage can be of Jeconiah
as one lineage contains Nathan son of David and the other contains
Soloman son of David only one of these lines can contain Jeconiah
and his curse. So therefore through one of these he is not of the cursed lineage. In reply to 'why cant the messiah be of cursed lineage' I regard as another topic the thread here is 'Is Jesus of curesed lineage?'. My answer is no as I have explained above.

If you follow the Matthew lineage, then, yes he is, since Jeconiah is specifically mentioned.Of course, Matthew and Luke totally disagree with each other.And, to further the matters, the line of David gets passed from father to son, with no breaks, and no adoptions. Since, according to the whole
'virgin birth' story, Jesus was NOT Josephs son, then the entire genealogy is irrelevant, and Jesus could not be of the Line of David anyway.

I am amazed to tell you that there is a legal way for Jesus to gain His mothers family inheritance and that is through a somewhat obscure law found in the Old Testament where it says, if there are no sons born to a man his inheritance will go to his daughters if they marry within the tribe. I will attempt to find that reference. I will also attempt to prove that at the time when Christ died on the cross and He tells John to behold Mary his mother and Mary to behold John her son that that may show Mary had no, of age, Male to care for her i.e., no brother, and the possibility of Joseph being dead at the time. I am just not sure about James because I believe he is Mary and Josephs son. Anyway I am running on,just some food for thought. As a mother of 4 daughters 0 sons I am interested in parts of the Bible where there is no male issue and encouraged to see daughters engaged in wall building and inheritance getting.

Yes, that is good for inheritance for material good. However, that is
not how the blood line would be counted. The blood line is always through the father, and the 'seed of David' is a term for a male decedent of David through Solomon, without any breaks or skipping generations. They got to have the 'david' y chromosome.

That makes sense about the material goods(I have not looked up the verse since I wrote that last night) .Yet as I was reading about "seed" the verse in Genesis 3:15 popped into my thoughts, my King James Version says'"I will put enmity between you and the woman and your seed and her Seed;" Could you tell me how the Hebrew reads?
Truthfully my real question lies in the passage in the book of Luke. If it was Marys bloodline being traced why didnt the writer write it that way? Saying Jesus the son of Mary, daughter of, Heli,and so on. Would it have been common in that day or Jewish custom, to list the Mothers Lineage using the husbands name and the wifes husband being referred to as the wifes fathers son?