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Author Topic:   Does the Errancy of Fundamentalism Disprove the God of the Bible?
sidelined
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Message 132 of 154 (419828)
09-04-2007 11:56 PM
Reply to: Message 130 by Cold Foreign Object
09-04-2007 9:51 PM


Factual error you say?
Cold Foreign Object
Joshua 10:12 Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon. (10:12-13)
In a divine type of daylight savings time, God makes the sun stand still so that Joshua can get all his killing done before dark.
10:13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.
Factually in error.
I made mention of this in a post a few years back. Although in that I referenced the passage of Isaiah 38:8 the effect is the same.
Now it appears Tom is under some illusion of what is entailed in the physics behind a god stopping the earth and reversing the rotation.
Besides the fact that no other nation recorded this event,nor,I might add did they notice that the sun now came up on the horizon it used to set on.{Remember,the earth is never stated as being returned to its original spin.}
The earth rotates at 1000 mph at the equator. It rotates at about,say, 450 mph at the level of the Middle East.Now if you stop the earth all the people and animals and anything to varying degrees according to their composition and mass will still be rotating at 450 mph eastward.Mountains would move less as the shearing forces began to acquire sufficient energy to break and melt rock.
So basically you would be sitting in your fields tending your sheep when you are suddenly find the ground beneath you grinding the flesh off your bones from the friction as you are now moving across it at 450 mph.The pain would be short lived as you quickly slam into a nearby hillside as it is turning into slag from the heat produced by inertial forces.Let us nor forget the wind at earths surface would now be experiencing similar disaster as it now moves at similar velocity along with you.The waters of the ocean are fluid so they would now be under some weird shifts since the gravitational forces are unbalanced towards the moon along with the surge as the oceans continued to move at the same speed.
It would be general chaos on a planetary scale.
This and the Joshua 10:12 passage reflect a complete misunderstanding of solar system dynamics not to mention the interconnection of the fundamental forces of nature which is to be expected from the writings of primitive people.
Edited by sidelined, : No reason given.

It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change.
Charles Darwin

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sidelined
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Message 139 of 154 (419999)
09-05-2007 9:28 PM
Reply to: Message 134 by Cold Foreign Object
09-05-2007 6:47 PM


Re: Factual error you say?
Cold Foreign Object
Your entire post is built on the assumption that the Bible says the sun revolves around the Earth. Negative. The Bible REPORTS that a person who lived in the 15th century BC believed that the sun revolves around the Earth. Since Joshua grew up in Egypt this makes sense.
That is completely besides the point. To say that the sun stood still in the sky or that the shadow on the sundial of Ahaz moved back 10 degrees {even worse} is to report a phenomena involving the stopping or reversing of the Earth's rotation about its axis and this reported phenomena has the results I listed in the previous post. And that was just a small sampling of the effects that would occur.

It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change.
Charles Darwin

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sidelined
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Message 145 of 154 (420210)
09-06-2007 8:17 PM
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09-06-2007 6:10 PM


Re: Factual error you say?
Q
It still remains that the rest of the world did not witness such a singularly impressive phenomena and duly record its occurrence.
As it stands the Christian God does not even manage to be outside of time space and matter since he frequently reeks havoc in this sort of way which means deliberately manipulating these properties that ,as you mention, he is supposed to be outside of.
Since the question asked pertained to factual errors we can safely assume ,in my humble view, that we are talking about the world we interact with normally and not capriciously changed as seen fit by this immoral excuse for a God.
Welcome to the goldmine Q. Please enjoy your stay here.
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sidelined
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Message 146 of 154 (420503)
09-08-2007 9:01 AM
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09-06-2007 6:10 PM


Re: Factual error you say?
Q
Again, talking about the Christian God... anything is possible.
Really? Care to explain what it means for anything to be possible for God?

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