The Bible's Flat Earth

And even the term oblate spheroid is an approximation. The actual mean gravitational shape of the earth is a Geoid due to harmonics and regional gravitational variations.Strange that whatever version of the Bible the anti-science crowd takes as being superior to all science forever and ever can't even get the shape of the earth properly described.Perhaps just like the shape of the earth is very roughly approximate if one uses a lot of gyrations with their apologetics, the words in the Bible are likewise very roughly approximate with a lot of gyrations of apologetics in regard to the actual intent of any purported divinity.Either that or it's a circle dammit, observation just has to fit in with what the perfect and infallible Bible says just like as in our perfect and infallible disease-ridden, witch-burning, ignorant Dark Ages in Europe.

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Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis BaconThe more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

So was the earth still rotating as usual and the shadow an illusion placed by divine intervention in order to keep the testimony in Joshua infallible? Just because the Bible is literal doesn't mean it should be taken literally unless a self-proclaimed 'voice of god' says it is. Which makes subjective observations the same as objective truth regardless of contradiction as long as the human/divine interpreter says so. Great, everything is true and false at the same time! Tell that to the Ethiopians.I have a question. Since according to you there are 'good' Bibles and 'bad' Bibles, 'literal' and 'literal but not literal' interpretations, 'good' science and 'bad' science depending upon what you claim is to be taken literally or not from any given Bible, are you stating that your person, because you claim to be inspired by that divine spark, are the sole and final arbiter of all religion and science for everyone on earth?I just ask because you seem utterly unaware of self-contradiction or indeed even the concept of basic human humility before God when debating.The Bible is literal and not literal but still is to be taken literally - Peg (in so many words)It's a floor polish - wife.
No it's a desert topping - husband.
No it's a floor polish - wife.Wait, it's both a floor polish and a desert topping - announcer.Saturday Night Live, first season.{ABE} I have nothing against you personally and am not seriously suggesting you are a person of infinite ego, but would you please think through some of these IMO irrational, self-contradictory, and indeed even bizarre statements before posting.Edited by anglagard, : No reason given.

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Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis BaconThe more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

Or incompletely right. If anyone can say anything without resort to logic or evidence and all assertions are equally correct regardless, then the whole idea of debate or even rational discussion breaks down completely.Might as well be posting in Urdu instead of English. It's not about you or me, it's about using the Socratic and/or dialectic method to achieve an approximation of truth.

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Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis BaconThe more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

Well that very thing which you have so eloquently described is the primary purpose of this forum.As one involved in the education of beginning college students, I vastly prefer that such an education is not compromised by having to address every minutiae of any given scripture in providing information concerning science.The problem is the demand that any given 'cult' explanation of any given 'religion' is supposed to supplant all mathematics, physics, chemistry, geology, and biology in a science class soon crowds out, given equal time to all religions, all education in usable facts.The very fact that this thread concerns a flat earth is the ultimate stupidity when religious fanatics attack genetic therapy.My question would be the same as the Baptists here say "what would Jesus do?"Apparently some here feel Jesus would be all about an argument concerning the shape of the earth.

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Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis BaconThe more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

If 'bibles' change over time, how can one or any be considered literal and inerrant?Are you saying 'bibles' evolve?

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Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis BaconThe more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza