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Topic: Why, if god limited man's life to 120 years, did people live longer?
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John
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Originally posted by funkmasterfreaky:
Most of these are people born before the flood. The change still occured as God had said in the lifespan. What is the argument here? This is weak. Not meant as insult but I do not see a real argument here. If you want to be completely literal then you have an argument. An argument that is too shaky for me.
As joz points out, funk, only a few names were of people born before the flood. If you look at the list I gave, you'll notice that it is a genealogy, and that the Bible gives conception dates as YEARS AFTER THE FLOOD. Secondly, I stopped listing not because I ran out of names but becuase I figured six or seven names were enough. After all, ONE contrary example proves that god didn't stick to the 120 years threat. Gen 11:20-21 Rue 437 Gen 11:22-23 Serug 230 Gen 11:24-25 Nahor 148 Gen 11:32 Terah 205 Gen 23:1 Sarah 127 Gen 25:7 Abraham 175 Gen 25:17 Ishmael 137 Gen 35:28 Isaac 180 Gen 47:28 Jacob 147 Ex. 6:16 Levi 137 Ex. 6:18 Kohath 133 Ex. 6:20 Amram 137 Were all of these people born before the flood, funk? ------------------
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funkmasterfreaky
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Message 17 of 230 (26619)
12-14-2002 7:51 PM
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Reply to: Message 16 by John
12-14-2002 10:22 AM
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Sorry I was wrong. ------------------ saved by grace
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John
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quote:
Originally posted by funkmasterfreaky:
Sorry I was wrong.
Do you realize the implications? ------------------
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Skandoggy
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Message 19 of 230 (26654)
12-15-2002 1:24 PM
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Reply to: Message 9 by John
12-13-2002 10:57 AM
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THREE POINTS OF INTEREST:1) The New World Translation 1984 says: My spirit shall not act toward man indefinitely in that he is also flesh. Accordingly his days shall amount to a hundred and twenty years.
2) The Authorized Version 1954 says: My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh; yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
3) Neither of these examples or your five, John, say what the Stickman's Bible says re: ...I will not allow people to LIVE FOR EVER...
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funkmasterfreaky
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Message 20 of 230 (26656)
12-15-2002 2:43 PM
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Reply to: Message 18 by John
12-15-2002 11:32 AM
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Sorry I don't really see any implications John. Man ceased to live 600-900 years. I thought that's what that verse was about. ------------------ saved by grace
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John
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Message 21 of 230 (26663)
12-15-2002 5:52 PM
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Reply to: Message 19 by Skandoggy
12-15-2002 1:24 PM
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Originally posted by Skandoggy:
THREE POINTS OF INTEREST:1) The New World Translation 1984 says: My spirit shall not act toward man indefinitely in that he is also flesh. Accordingly his days shall amount to a hundred and twenty years.
ummmm.... right. And the example I provided show lifespans of longer than that.
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2) The Authorized Version 1954 says: My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh; yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
Isn't this the same point as above?
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3) Neither of these examples or your five, John, say what the Stickman's Bible says re: ...I will not allow people to LIVE FOR EVER...
Why is this relevant? The point is that God sets an age limit of 120 and in the next breath violates it. ------------------
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funkmasterfreaky
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Message 22 of 230 (26720)
12-16-2002 9:06 AM
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Reply to: Message 18 by John
12-15-2002 11:32 AM
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To me there is no implication. Science allows anomolys, without changing it's theories because of a few acceptions to a common rule. God still maintained his word in that man ceased to live for 800-900 yrs, and actually tends to live a whole lot less than 120 yrs. This is a weak argument, (imo). ------------------ Saved by an incredible Grace. [This message has been edited by funkmasterfreaky, 12-16-2002]
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Skandoggy
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Message 23 of 230 (26729)
12-16-2002 9:42 AM
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Reply to: Message 21 by John
12-15-2002 5:52 PM
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To whom does God limit lifespans, John?
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Skandoggy
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Message 24 of 230 (26738)
12-16-2002 10:16 AM
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Reply to: Message 21 by John
12-15-2002 5:52 PM
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To whom does God limit lifespans, John?
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John
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Message 25 of 230 (26760)
12-16-2002 11:55 AM
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Reply to: Message 23 by Skandoggy
12-16-2002 9:42 AM
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Originally posted by Skandoggy:
To whom does God limit lifespans, John?
aleph, dalet, mem == adam == man, men, as in humanity. Are you claiming differently? ------------------
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Skandoggy
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Message 26 of 230 (26854)
12-16-2002 5:21 PM
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Reply to: Message 25 by John
12-16-2002 11:55 AM
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God limits the lifespan of those who have inherited Adamic sin. Do you know what that is?
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Skandoggy
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Message 27 of 230 (26855)
12-16-2002 5:22 PM
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Reply to: Message 25 by John
12-16-2002 11:55 AM
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God limits the lifespan of those who have inherited Adamic sin. Do you know what that is?
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John
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Message 28 of 230 (26857)
12-16-2002 5:29 PM
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Reply to: Message 27 by Skandoggy
12-16-2002 5:22 PM
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Originally posted by Skandoggy:
God limits the lifespan of those who have inherited Adamic sin. Do you know what that is?
If you have a point please make it. I don't feel like twenty questions. ------------------
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Skandoggy
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Message 29 of 230 (26859)
12-16-2002 5:36 PM
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Reply to: Message 25 by John
12-16-2002 11:55 AM
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God limits the lifespan of those who have inherited Adamic sin. Do you know what that is?
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John
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Message 30 of 230 (26860)
12-16-2002 5:40 PM
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Reply to: Message 29 by Skandoggy
12-16-2002 5:36 PM
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Originally posted by Skandoggy:
God limits the lifespan of those who have inherited Adamic sin. Do you know what that is?
So, you don't have a point to make then? If you do, just make it. Spell it out. Define, describe, whatever. Just make you point. ------------------
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