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Topic: Were there Dinosaurs in the Bible?
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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1489 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: 03-20-2003
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Message 136 of 222 (135694)
08-20-2004 2:10 PM
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Reply to: Message 130 by lfen
08-20-2004 1:07 PM
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I would like to ask you what distinguishes Buzsaw's post from trolling? He's still here, I guess.
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 137 of 222 (135696)
08-20-2004 2:14 PM
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Reply to: Message 135 by Hydarnes
08-20-2004 2:10 PM
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Re: Don't know why you included me?
And yet you failed to justify that stance when it came down to the Biblical reference. LOL You would perhaps like Biblical references on why the Bible should be taken figuratively?
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1489 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: 03-20-2003
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Message 138 of 222 (135697)
08-20-2004 2:14 PM
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Reply to: Message 129 by mark24
08-20-2004 12:55 PM
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Re: Keep the designations clear
There's a suite of characters that are considered reptilian, brain case structure, jaw structure, etc. it's not just eggs & scales. Dinosaurs are in possession of as many reptile characters as the next reptile. So, hypothetically, if that suite had, for instance, 8 characters, how many would an organism have to have to fall under that classification? 7? 5? 2? Is that how it works?
It's less objective than the cladistic system, IMHO. I guess I can see the subjectivity in determining what group consistutes a clade, but it seems like determining who is in the clade is a lot less subjective.
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NosyNed
Member Posts: 9003 From: Canada Joined: 04-04-2003
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Message 139 of 222 (135714)
08-20-2004 3:58 PM
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Reply to: Message 134 by Hydarnes
08-20-2004 2:08 PM
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Re: Knowing?
True enough. We'll see.
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mark24
Member (Idle past 5217 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: 12-01-2001
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Re: Keep the designations clear
crashfrog,
So, hypothetically, if that suite had, for instance, 8 characters, how many would an organism have to have to fall under that classification? 7? 5? 2? Is that how it works? An excellent question that deserves an equally good answer.  Mark
There are 10 kinds of people in this world; those that understand binary, & those that don't
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sidelined
Member (Idle past 5930 days) Posts: 3435 From: Edmonton Alberta Canada Joined: 08-30-2003
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Message 141 of 222 (135924)
08-21-2004 11:51 AM
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Reply to: Message 109 by Buzsaw
08-20-2004 12:56 AM
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Re: Reptiles
buzsaw I am sory that I have not kept up on this thread so pardon me if I ask just what your hypothesis states.Could you also clarify what the mechanism that produced the changes would be?
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dpardo
Inactive Member
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Message 142 of 222 (135981)
08-21-2004 6:20 PM
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Reply to: Message 46 by Yaro
08-17-2004 11:15 AM
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Yaro said: "These are not dinosaurs, but actually well documented mythological beasts predominant in middleastern mythology from babylon to persia. To say they are dinosaurs is preposterous." Yaro, if some cultures mention Behemoth or Leviathan in their writings does that make them mythological?
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NosyNed
Member Posts: 9003 From: Canada Joined: 04-04-2003
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Message 143 of 222 (135990)
08-21-2004 7:05 PM
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Reply to: Message 142 by dpardo
08-21-2004 6:20 PM
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Myths
Yaro, if some cultures mention Behemoth or Leviathan in their writings does that make them mythological? I'd say what makes them mythological is no evidence other than the writings to suggest that the creatures exist or existed. Are you suggesting that everything mentioned in any cultures writings qualify as potentially real? I think most of us would accept that some such creatures may be based on stories of real animals but there would have to be some real evidence for anything beyond that.
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Nighttrain
Member (Idle past 4015 days) Posts: 1512 From: brisbane,australia Joined: 06-08-2004
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Message 144 of 222 (135995)
08-21-2004 7:22 PM
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In the Ozarks, we call all critters without laigs a 'reptile.'
`Cept fer them revenooers.
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Buzsaw
Inactive Member
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Message 145 of 222 (135997)
08-21-2004 7:37 PM
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Reply to: Message 141 by sidelined
08-21-2004 11:51 AM
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Re: Reptiles
I am sory that I have not kept up on this thread so pardon me if I ask just what your hypothesis states.Could you also clarify what the mechanism that produced the changes would be? No problem. Go to message 7, page 1 and message 101 page 7 If it's not clear get back to me. This message has been edited by buzsaw, 08-21-2004 06:42 PM
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AdminNosy
Administrator Posts: 4754 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Joined: 11-11-2003
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Message 146 of 222 (136009)
08-21-2004 8:23 PM
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Reply to: Message 145 by Buzsaw
08-21-2004 7:37 PM
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A suggestion
When refering to other msgs you can use the msg tag. You can see all of it in the UBB codes to the left of the edit screen. Here is an example
Message 7 Using the raw text button will show how it is done. This message has been edited by AdminNosy, 08-21-2004 07:24 PM
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lfen
Member (Idle past 4699 days) Posts: 2189 From: Oregon Joined: 06-24-2004
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Re: Am I missing something ?
but doesn't the fact it has a navel mean that whatever the creature is, it is a placental mammal and not a reptile/lizard/dinosaur ? Very perceptive! I'm no expert but I've been around snakes and turtles and they don't have navels, neither do fish or birds. Excellent point. This critter whatever it was was a placental mammal and NOT a dinosaur. lfen
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lfen
Member (Idle past 4699 days) Posts: 2189 From: Oregon Joined: 06-24-2004
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Message 148 of 222 (136018)
08-21-2004 8:57 PM
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Reply to: Message 50 by Yaro
08-17-2004 11:40 AM
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Re: OT Pecos' Avatar
Hey Pecos, I liked your old av so much better. It was so trippy Yaro, I liked it too. Here is the artists website with more of his art and the story behind it. The animation artist Bennett is a very interesting guy. 403 Forbidden
lfen
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sidelined
Member (Idle past 5930 days) Posts: 3435 From: Edmonton Alberta Canada Joined: 08-30-2003
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Nighttrain
In the Ozarks, we call all critters without laigs a 'reptile.'
`Cept fer them revenooers. An' we don' call them revnooers.Theys just what we call terget practise.
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Buzsaw
Inactive Member
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Message 150 of 222 (136030)
08-21-2004 11:41 PM
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Reply to: Message 146 by AdminNosy
08-21-2004 8:23 PM
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Re: A suggestion
Thanks Ned. I never knew how that was done.
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