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Coragyps
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Message 18 of 301 (176249)
01-12-2005 12:29 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by 36Christians
01-10-2005 10:23 AM


We are ready to receive and refute any apparent contradiction or error in the King James Bible.
Uh....is that the one that says "the circle of the Earth?" The one with talking snakes and donkeys? With houses that catch leprosy? That one?

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Coragyps
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Message 29 of 301 (176273)
01-12-2005 2:11 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by johnfolton
01-12-2005 12:59 PM


Cthulhu, Granted the beetle has 4 feet for creeping but it also has two legs for jumping.
What? The? Fork?
Which beetles have extra legs for jumping? Elaters seem to use all six of theirs, and I've yet to see a cockroach or a stag beetle jump, even a baby-step jump. What are you talking about, Bret?

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Coragyps
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Message 35 of 301 (176294)
01-12-2005 4:06 PM
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01-12-2005 2:34 PM


The verses seem to indicate some beetles have two legs above their four creeping feet for jumping 6 total.
Why don't you find me an example? I can't think of one.

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Coragyps
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Message 117 of 301 (177555)
01-16-2005 12:21 PM
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01-16-2005 12:14 PM


However, there was one year in which it was possible that Quirinius could have been a lieutenant governor of Syria. It was the summer of 2 B.C. between Saturninus and the second governorship of Varus.
WHICH IS TWO YEARS AFTER FREAKIN' HEROD IS FREAKIN' DEAD AND BURIED DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!

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Coragyps
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Message 161 of 301 (178100)
01-18-2005 10:13 AM
Reply to: Message 149 by johnfolton
01-17-2005 10:27 PM


Re:
25 Dec., 2 B.C.
Jupiter stationary over
Bethlehem, as viewed from Jerusalem
That is a nonsensical statement. It may well be that Jupiter was "stationary" among the background stars on that date - and would appear so from anywhere on Earth. Bethlehem is a little west of due south of Jerusalem, so the normal nightly motion of the sky would make it appear to be "over" Bethlehem for an hour or so on any night in any year that it was visible - but NEVER stationary.
And besides, Tom, haven't you already demonstrated that December 25 is out as a possible date for the birth?

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Coragyps
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Message 164 of 301 (178148)
01-18-2005 11:22 AM
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01-18-2005 11:04 AM


Re: The star "stood over" where the "young child" was
and the Griffith Observatory confirms the wandering star Jupiter was the Planet that remained stationary over Bethlehem as observed from Jerusalem on Dec 25th 2B.C.
They are mistaken, or, more likely, your source has misinterpreted what they said. The statement "remained stationary over Bethlehem as observed from Jerusalem" is nonsense. It can't happen. It didn't happen.

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Message 215 of 301 (178491)
01-19-2005 9:19 AM
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01-19-2005 5:42 AM


Re: Topic, Tom...Topic!
Hi, Incognito!
Seeing as most everything else in astronomy is a theory at best, how does this prove/disprove anything again?
The motions of planets against the starry background and the nightly apparent motion of stars, planets, and all to the west aren't "a theory at best." Next time it's clear where you are, go out about midnight and watch for Jupiter to come up. It'll be the brightest starry-looking thing in the east. Watch it 'till daybreak, and see if it "stands over" any location as Tom said it "stood over Bethlehem as seen from Jerusalem." The only way that can happen is through a Joshua-style stopping of the earth's rotation/movement of the universe about our stationary planet.
The Romans, Olmecs, Chinese, and Indians would have noticed that.

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Coragyps
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Message 234 of 301 (178640)
01-19-2005 4:31 PM
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01-19-2005 3:35 PM


Re: Hello Coragyps
If you really don't believe the Biblical account, you need to go figure out when it might have happened.
What happened was that a writer around 50 AD or so needed highly significant portents in the sky to point to the birth of a god on earth, so he decided on a star "appearing." Whether this was intended to mean a conjunction of planets or a "new" star would depend, I suppose, on how astrologically sophisticated the author was.

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Coragyps
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Message 238 of 301 (178646)
01-19-2005 4:45 PM
Reply to: Message 236 by pink sasquatch
01-19-2005 4:37 PM


Re: grasshopper creeping movie
If the creator didn't design them for creeping, then why are they used during creeping?
That's a post-Fall grasshopper, PS. Hopperosis sinfulbastardus. They're very common down here. They use those hind legs to crawl because of SIN!!!

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Coragyps
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Message 254 of 301 (178713)
01-19-2005 6:15 PM
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01-19-2005 5:12 PM


Re: The Royal Planet Jupiter Stopped over Bethlehem
Jupiter reached full stop in its travel through the fixed stars.
That's what I told you above. It happens every year to the outer planets - they seem stationary against the star backdrop.
Magi viewing from Jerusalem would have seen it stopped in the sky above the little town of Bethlehem.
Anyone viewing it from anywhere on Earth would have seen Jupiter stationary against the star backdrop. Nobody on Earth could or would have seen it "stopped in the sky above the little town of Bethlehem." It would have gone on to set, exactly like every celestial body that isn't circumpolar does. It didn't "stop over Bethlehem." It "stopped" over the whole Earth as far as - only as far as - its motion against the starry background.

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Coragyps
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Message 255 of 301 (178715)
01-19-2005 6:19 PM
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01-19-2005 6:06 PM


Re:
The bible says man was made in his image,
And you've seen God, Tom? How big is His Holy Penis?

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Coragyps
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Message 264 of 301 (178740)
01-19-2005 8:14 PM
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01-19-2005 7:30 PM


Re:
Yes, Tom, I'm aware of that. The triple conjunction hypothesis is in the Christmas planetarium show that I practiced giving last month.
How many completely distinct phenomena does that make that you've proposed, in this one thread, to be The Real Thing now?

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Coragyps
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Message 274 of 301 (178778)
01-19-2005 10:26 PM


It just occurred to me: powdered gold? The most malleable of all metals, beaten to a powder? I'll bet that was difficult.

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Coragyps
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Message 293 of 301 (179112)
01-20-2005 9:00 PM
Reply to: Message 292 by Incognito
01-20-2005 7:32 PM


Re: PaulK, Brian, Nighttrain, Sidelined
if you find real "errors" that are provable with archaeological, historical, scientific facts, please bring them up.
Yawn. A worldwide Flood.

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