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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1488 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
The practice of bloodletting seemed logical when the foundation of all medical treatment was based on the four body humors: blood, phlegm, yellow bile, and black bile. It's funny that this misconception still inflects our vocabulary for different moods; we still use the words "sanguine", "melancholy", "phlegmatic", and er, well, "choleric", which isn't really a mood. I found this wiki article very interesting, especially in regards to the association of the four humours with four totemic spirits:
Humorism - Wikipedia
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1488 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Beetles have 6 legs, none of which are specific for leaping.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1488 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
I doubt the translators were all into claudistic similarities, if they were likely the cricket is the more correct interpretation of this root hebrew word. So what you're saying is, the only inerrant Bible is the one none of us can read. What the hell good is that?
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1488 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
This is all the bible is saying, it says it has two legs used for jumping above the 4 creeping feet. They're not above them; they're behind them.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1488 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
They might be behind but they are also above. As you can see from this image the hind legs attach at a lower sagittal elevation than the forelegs: So, no. They're not above; they're below and behind.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1488 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Here's a thought... Does "above" mean where the leg is attached to the body? Look, Grover, I'm pretty sure I know what "above" means, and it doesn't just mean "higher than", it means "over." Those legs are not located above the other legs, they're behind the other legs. There's no meaningful way they can be said to be above. They might be higher than the other legs at their highest point, but that's not what "above" means. Also that's trivial, because the legs are also lower than the other legs at their lowest point, because they're simply larger than the other legs.
Changing cultural understandings don’t put texts in error — it's readers who don’t understand cultural/historical context while reading the texts who put themselves in error. Ah, how convinient. Any time the Bible appears to be in error, it's simply because we don't understand the "cultural context"; a cultural context that can, apparently, reverse the meaning of words and divide a number of stables by 10. Do you have any evidence for this cultural context? Or isn't the only reason you propose it exists because the Bible appears to need it?
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1488 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Do you really expect those people to have access to pocket calculators? No, but with God supposedly whispering the text into their ears, I would expect the numbers to come out right.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1488 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
"36 Christians," as you read these posts, notice that a guy with 7300 posts and making references to Sesame Street is asking about cultural context. Oh, don't get me wrong. Cultural context can shade and influence meaning, to a great extent. But it can't reverse meaning. It can't make a passage that says 40,000 mean 4,000, or (as was offered to me on another discussion board once) take a passage that says "whosoever strikes your right cheek, turn to him your left" and render its meaning "take vengence when evil is done to you." It can't change the word "above" into "behind." When you offer "cultural context" as a way to smooth over difficulties in the Bible, with absolutely no evidence whatsoever that the cultural connotation you're proposing actually existed at the time, then you're just making up ad hoc explanations because you can't bear to see your beloved Bible be wrong about something.
Please check out meaning #4 from Merriam-Webster: 4 archaic : in addition : BESIDES. You're saying that the Bible says that insects have legs besides their feet? How does that make any sense?
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1488 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
I believe God to be living, interacting with me through the text, and able to aid my discernment. If you don't believe that the Bible as we have it now is the literal, inerrant, eternal Word of God, then I have no issue with you. But if you believe that the Bible was dictated word-for-word by God to its human authors, then the numbers should come out right, because why would God need to approximate?
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1488 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Heck, Greek scientists once thought the Earth was flat Are you talking about the Greek scientists who not only knew that the Earth was a sphere, but were able to estimate its diameter within 1% accuracy? Those guys?
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1488 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
The cultural contexts issue is not a cop-out, it's a legitimate statement regarding the misinterpretation of a few words by this group. What evidence do you have of that particular cultural connotation beyond its necessity to explain these discrepancies? Such evidence would include other contemporaneous Hebrew writings that use the same terminology in an unambiguous situation.
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