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Author Topic:   Challenge to Wordswordman
Percy
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Message 2 of 33 (19919)
10-15-2002 10:12 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Andya Primanda
10-15-2002 5:47 AM


This challenge may be posed in the wrong direction. Shouldn't we be providing evidence that change occurs and then challenge Wordswordsman to refute that evidence?
One simple expression I found of the first theory was, "Characteristics of populations change across generations through time." What is our evidence for this?
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 8 of 33 (19932)
10-15-2002 1:21 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Mammuthus
10-15-2002 12:56 PM


Maybe I'm just missing where this thread is coming from, but I don't think evolutionists have clearly characterized the evidence from which they conclude that the characteristics of populations change over time. No evidence was presented in message 1, and so Wordswordsman responded with an essay that presented his own material, and from there the discussion has quickly declined into meaningless sniping and rhetorical declarations of victory.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 12 of 33 (19982)
10-15-2002 11:43 PM
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10-15-2002 1:29 PM


Mammuthus writes:
Rather than addressing Andya's challenge...
How was WS to address the challenge? Andya offered a premise, but no evidence supporting the premise. This left WS free to take whatever avenue he chose. WS may be wrong, but he's winning this discussion. Sometimes it seems that evolutionists think, "Hey, we're right, we've got the theory, we've got the evidence, everything's on our side, so we can argue in any old sloppy way we feel like."
Just my two cents...
--Percy

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