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Author Topic:   Where Science And The Bible Meet
ArchArchitect
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Message 1 of 208 (396065)
04-18-2007 7:47 PM


I have heard many people say that Science and the Bible are enemies and do not fit together at all. In reality the people that make that statement are wrong:

There are many places in the Bible which have been scientifically been proven to be accurate. For example, read Matthew 24:29. That scene can also be found in Mark and Luke. If you know anything about science, then you'd know why it is scientifical. Look at how once the Sun gets darkened, the moon also loses brightness as a result.

My point? Keep in mind that 2,000 years ago, people thought that the Sun was 1 meter in diameter. How can the people be able to tell such scientific facts and have them be proven right later after much debate? [The book of Matthew was written at about 50 AD].

Edited by ArchArchitect, : AdminSchraf said that the wording was confusing.


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ArchArchitect
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Message 3 of 208 (396073)
04-18-2007 8:02 PM


People keep saying that the Bible and Science are enemies. In reality they are not.
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ArchArchitect
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Message 5 of 208 (396727)
04-21-2007 9:05 PM
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04-19-2007 7:36 AM


So how do I do that? Do I have to edit this one, or start it from the beginning? If I have to edit it, how do I do that? I don't see any options to edit it..
~Thanks~
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ArchArchitect
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Message 7 of 208 (396750)
04-21-2007 10:09 PM
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04-21-2007 10:01 PM


ok I did it. Is it clearer now?
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ArchArchitect
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Message 11 of 208 (396789)
04-22-2007 1:52 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by Zhimbo
04-21-2007 10:52 PM


Re: The verse in question
In both translations, the light is specifically attributed to the moon itself

The people who were seeing the visions did not know how to explain it. The science of that time said that the moon gave its own light. He saw in his vision that the Sun got dark, and AFTER that, the moon not longer was bright. According to the science of that time, the moon stopped giving its light.


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ArchArchitect
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Message 30 of 208 (397042)
04-24-2007 2:59 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by iceage
04-23-2007 12:46 AM


Re: Pick and choose
Yeah, maybe because that's not what I am talking about. I am showing that the Bible does have some points that can be scientifically backed up. Of course there are things in there that are supernatural, like stars falling from the sky. So what? They are supernatural. God is not bound by science, therefore, you cannot prove the existence of God through science - let alone anything.

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For people like you, that is very bad news because you wont accept that He does exist without proof. For me, I have 100% faith that God does exist. I do not need proof of His existence. He has worked so many miracles in my life that to say that He does not exist, is idiocy. I can list some of them for you if you want, however it would be off topic. I'll go to the chat room or something, I don't care.

So I have done my job and told you that He does exist. You are not my responsibility. Your blood is on your own hands now. I have done what I needed to do - that is it.

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ArchArchitect
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Message 31 of 208 (397043)
04-24-2007 3:03 AM
Reply to: Message 25 by Dr Adequate
04-23-2007 6:58 AM


Do your homework Adequate. A philosospher estimated that the Sun was 1 meter in diameter. I can't think of his name right now - I think it might have been Galileo or something but I am really not sure at this point. Since I'm in a rush, I'll get your answer later.
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ArchArchitect
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Message 39 of 208 (397104)
04-24-2007 11:58 AM
Reply to: Message 34 by PaulK
04-24-2007 7:05 AM


Re: Pick and choose
So if we won't unquestionally beleive everything you say it's our fault.

How can it be my fault if you choose not to believe what I say? I already told you. I went off topic on that so I'm going to veer back now. I suggest that you do the same.

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ArchArchitect
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Message 42 of 208 (397160)
04-24-2007 7:19 PM
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04-24-2007 2:17 PM


Re: Pick and choose
First you say you don't need proof and then you say the miracles you have witnessed are proof.

I do not need proof but the proof is there. Any more stupid questions?

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ArchArchitect
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Message 55 of 208 (397570)
04-26-2007 4:03 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by Dr Adequate
04-23-2007 6:58 AM


Matthew 24:29 proves that the author didn't know what a star is or how gravity works. Hence, the passage cannot be divinely inspired, because God would know these things.

So what good would it do for God to speak scientifically to the people of the time when this was written? They would not have a clue what He was talking about.
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