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Message 57 of 347 (490258)
12-03-2008 10:47 AM
Reply to: Message 46 by kuresu
12-03-2008 4:57 AM


Of course, since god did it all, no problems, right?
Amen likely too floating mats of vegetation in the southern hemisphere given biblically it was summer thru much of the flood in the southern hemisphere. It explains why no hoofed creature native to australia only those with claws survived. right? With natural selection having to adapt to a quite different earth after the flood with God overseeing it all why it happened in less than 5,500 years. right? Racoons, kangaroo's a whole host of creatures according to the bible survived off the ark if only hoofed, fowl, and creeping creatures were primarily on the ark. right? Maybe you should read the bible for what it actually is saying instead of making up stuff, etc...
P.S. Its like Ned said only a few kind that developed into multitudes of the species that now inhabit the earth. The ark was more a cattle, fowl, the creeping creatures kind floating barn, akjv genesis 7:23 right? the fish, snakes, earth worms, reptiles, coral, trees, whales, dolphins, creatures with claws all survived on floating vegetation or some like walrus, seals, otter just swam out the flood (lots of food and fresh water), etc....The fossil record is more or less those that perished. right? but not all perished due stuff floats, larvae in the bark of trees, insects frozen in all the glaciers formed by the deluge in the northern hemisphere then unthawed after the flood causing insects to help repopulate the earth, and the creatures coming off the ark that helped repopulate the earth.
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Message 69 of 347 (490302)
12-03-2008 4:28 PM
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12-03-2008 2:24 PM


Amen likely too floating mats of vegetation in the southern hemisphere given biblically it was summer thru much of the flood in the southern hemisphere.
How do you know when the flood occured i.e. summer, spring, winter?
If you want to know just read the bible! The answer to this question is in the book of genesis. right?
P.S. Don't take my Word for it read the bible yourself to see when the bible says it happened.
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Message 70 of 347 (490303)
12-03-2008 4:35 PM
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12-03-2008 3:42 PM


Re: Ark Size
Of course, there is a vast difference between building a wooden ship of this size and a steel ship of this size. One can actually survive in the ocean--steel.
The answers in the book of genesis its says they had iron and brass technology in Noahs days. right?

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Message 72 of 347 (490313)
12-03-2008 6:06 PM
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Re: Ark Size
Unless Noah was ahead of the rest of the region by 800 years
The bible says they had iron and bronze in Noahs day. Do a word search for Tubalcain.
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Message 84 of 347 (490344)
12-03-2008 10:07 PM
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12-03-2008 6:49 PM


The second month of the Jewish calendar as described in Genesis 7 is Iyar which equated to April and May which is spring not summer in the northern hemisphere.
October 17th in the second month from the creation of the world. Tishrei has been determined to be the first month since the creation of the world which puts Marcheshvan as the second month on the Hebrew calender.
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There may be an echo here of a controversy in the Talmud about whether the world was created in Tishrei or Nisan; it was decided that the answer is Tishrei, and this is now reflected in the prayers on Rosh Hashanah.[14]
Hebrew calendar - Wikipedia
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Message 98 of 347 (490426)
12-04-2008 1:03 PM
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12-04-2008 5:33 AM


You were wrong about the Biblical lands being in the southern hemisphere
Never said the biblical lands were in the southern hemisphere. What would that have to do with the flood?
If you calculate Oct 17 the 40 day flood thru November which is one of the coldest months of the year. This is how all them glaciers formed suddenly all those quick frozen fossils found in the northern hemisphere. It was not till approximately late april early may that the mountain top peaks became visible. right?
In the Beginning: Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood - FrozenMammoths.html
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What date does winter officially start and what date does it end?
In reality, the three-month period associated with the coldest average temperatures typically begins somewhere in late November or early December in the Northern Hemisphere.
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Message 100 of 347 (490429)
12-04-2008 1:26 PM
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12-04-2008 1:12 PM


Re: Do you really believe this?
There is about the same chance of this idea of yours being accurate as there is of the Easter bunny laying colored eggs, i.e., none.
Seriously, do you really believe this stuff that you post, or are you just putting us on?
The bible is inerrant the fossils found quick frozen has been found in the northern hemisphere. right?
P.S. Its not like easter bunnies are planting these fossils its just that they are there a warm tropical diet within a quickly frozen fossil. right?
In the Beginning: Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood - Frozen Mammoths

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Message 117 of 347 (490577)
12-05-2008 11:50 PM
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12-05-2008 10:51 PM


Re: How many 'kind' on the ark?
two of every 'kind' of animal, bird and insect.
The bible says there were cattle kind, fowl kind, and creeping creature kind. right? akjv genesis 6:20 these are the creatures that came unto Noah , to keep them alive. right? All them other kinds survived on floating debris, swam out the fresh water world flood, etc... right? Is not that what the bible is saying like Noah knew the waters had subsided when an olive tree had new growth. right? Tree's survived because they floated upwards as islands of refuge for all the kinds that survived apart from the ark. right? the word for "only" can mean "nontheless". right? The bible inerrancy is awesome, etc...You can not find even one creature native to Australia that is hoofed due they all perished. right? due non could migrate from Noah's ark to Australia after the flood. No land route available. right?
P.S. Your all trying to put all the different kinds on the ark when the bible is not inferring this at all. right? It just says all the creatures in the earth perished. The fossil record is biblical confirmation of the bibles inerrancy in respect to the world flood that all the creatures that remained in the earth perished. akjv genesis 6:17 right? etc...
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Message 119 of 347 (490586)
12-06-2008 1:10 AM
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12-06-2008 1:03 AM


Re: How many 'kind' on the ark?
What verse is this in?
akjv gen 6:17 if so then, etc...Its saying things that survive by the breath of life of flesh perished in the earth. Its also saying things that are in the earth that perished included things that were not flesh if they were in the earth. right? The only way life could survive apart from the ark was aboard things that floated above the surface of the earth. right? A hoofed creature could not of climbed aboard a floating tree nor swam out a world flood. right? Why no native hoof creature in Australia. etc...When you see a flood with cattle usually they are floating dead. right? The bible says they came to Noah to save them. right? verse 20
P.S. Where do you personally believe all the massive coal yards came from along the Rocky mountains buried in sediments. How come less than 6,000 years ago the mighty redwood tree found in all the mighty coal deposits world wide now only are found only in Western side of the America's. The bible has the answer the deluge and the glaciers formed by the flood. The oldest living redwood interestingly is more supporting evidence of the truth and how long ago the biblical flood occured, right?etc....
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Message 121 of 347 (490592)
12-06-2008 2:27 AM
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12-06-2008 2:06 AM


Re: How many 'kind' on the ark?
tAZ,
dOWNload e-sword concordances and "check it out". Only can mean nontheless. right? Nontheless Noah and them on the ark survived. right? If you prefer to believe only Noah survived and no other life survived how do you explain the olive branch, etc... God is not the author of confusion. right? etc...
P.S. Only is inclusive but obviously not all life perished within the earth. right? No hoofed creatures native to Australia due no land bridge to Australia. All hoofed creatures perished in world flood that included Australia. right? The bible is still inerrant. right? thats why you have a concordance to clear the air, etc...
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Message 123 of 347 (490594)
12-06-2008 2:40 AM
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12-06-2008 2:32 AM


Re: How many 'kind' on the ark?
Hang on a second, you are trying to make me decide between the word of god and your own opinion.
You seem to be quoting a satanic bible version and quoting it as if its Gods Word. The bible says when the Word is planted the devil comes along and takes away the Word. Basically too me your quoting a bible version that has taken away from the Word. right?
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