The real mountain of Yahweh

I'd like to know if anyone knows as to whether Ron Wyatt's "Mt Sinai" site has been investigated. This is NOT a topic about Wyatt's credibility. That is for the specific reason that I genuinely require the truth as to whether it is possible that this site in Arabia is the real Mt. Sinai.A column was found with inscription in archaic Hebrew , and the site has apprently many evidences including an altar with a petroglyph of a golden calf; With so many instances matching up withe the biblical account, is there anything in this? I'm interested in other possible Sinai sites other than the traditional place. Surely these photographs aren't fake? Or maybe taken somewhere else? WHy the Hebrew writing? Why the altar and twelve pillars? And the locals knowing it to mean the place of Moses? (according to website)It seems I've been told there was no evidence of any Exodus or Hebrews coming from Egypt, but is this evidence of dwellings? What is it evidence of? We are obviously looking at something here are we not? Here is the location for the "real" Sinai site. (according to the site) Now Ron enters Saudi Arabia thus; And Moses wrote all the words of the LORD, and rose up early in the morning, and builded an altar under the hill, and twelve pillars, according to the twelve tribes of Israel.
.......EXODUS 24:4Sinai site, with evidences; List of evidences;A = Saudi Guard House
B = Altar with Petroglyphs
C = Remains of 12 Pillars
D = Large Altar at the foot of Mt. Sinai
e = Red Lines mark Wells
e = Aqua Lines mark Stone FencesHut circles Altar and Corral
Located directly beneath, or
"under" the high peak of Sinai Here is the storyThis message has been edited by mike the wiz, 04-03-2005 09:35 AM Edited by AdminJar to size pictures.This message has been edited by AdminJar, 04-03-2005 09:44 AM

Most of the Wyatt stuff has been hashed over numerous times but if you want to run through it again, where would you like them placed? Respond here and I'll promote both this and the Ark of the Covenant thread.

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I would say miscellaneous or bible forum. Wherever you think best.I know the Wyatt stuff is done, but I promise I'm more interested in the Arabia claim, and the real Sinai.

Thread moved here from the Proposed New Topics forum.

are a great example of why there is little reason to even acknowledge Wyatts claims. Using them as an example is yet another one of Ron Wyatts selective dishonesty tactics.First, such drawings are common throughout the area and extending all the way across the Mediterranean both north and south of the sea.Second, Ron Wyatt is very dishonest in how and what he presents. One good example is the cattle you included. It is only one of many, many drawings in the same area. When you see all of the drawings though, what you find is that a variety of people and critters are included. In addition, many that he identifies as cattle are actually of goats, Ibex and other animals that were common in the area.Here are some examples. Note:the above is identified by Wyatt as typically Egyptian in form... but when seen in context you can see that the picture of the person is not really related to the critter and in fact is a phalic symbol which Wyatts's folk touched up to change the context. Every other point that Wyatt brings up in his Sinai fiction suffers from similar problems. The images themselves date from long before the Exodus was supposed to happen, very near the Creation date as YECs see it. They are but old pictoglyphs.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Thanks for those amazing picture Jar.Would you say that these petroglphs were from other people in the are, of other religion that pre-date any Exodus?I understand why you would call this Wyatt's fantasy, and I thought the pictures shown were a bit selective, but what about the Hebrew inscriptions and other factors? The twelve pillars, and the picture showing and explaining the whole site, apparently as told of in the bible?Please feel free to produce any juicy pics. Do you know of any other possible Sinai sites? (my knowledge is zero )

They are definitely from folk that pre-dated the Exodus (if there ever was an Exodus) and by many, many millenia. They don't seem to have a specific religious affiliation (ie: not related to any known religion) but do show definite signs of at a minimum, some hunting culture and fertility culture.Despite Wyatt's claim that they are unusual, the fact is they are very common (just as they are throughout the southwest US and even the British Isles, and seem to date back to stone age cultures, hunter gatherers. If you check Google, you'll find that quite a few tour agencies offer package tours all over the area that includes trips to see similar petroglyphs in Arabia, Ethiopia, Egypt, Sudan, Tunisia, Lybia, Greece and on and on.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Thanks.I like the petroglyphs, but especially I desire the Ark of the covenant. Do you know where it is, can I have a look at it? What really excites me is Jewish ancients writings, inscriptions that actually mention Yahweh. These aren't proves, but they show the history of Judaism, and this fascinates me.I suppose your point about them bein around the place a lot is valid. This was the fundamental flaw with Ron's Ark shaped (Noah's)natural phenomenon. I felt I'd been lied to when the guys at EvC infact shown me that there are many ark-shaped natural anomolies.So am I spotting a consistent failure to divulge the full information?

I honestly think what you are seeing is a constant failure of Ron Wyatt to see anything beyond what he has decided to see. When you combine that with a refusal to present any of his evidence for independant analysis, there is a pattern.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

This immediately reminded me of a heated argument I heard once on public radio - a professor of ancient cultures was trying to explain to a fundamentalist "scholar" that the earliest known use of the "Jesus fish" symbol was within pre-Christian culture as a symbol of female fertility. The "Jesus fish" is actually a turned-on-its-side pictographical representation of female genitals (according to the professor). The fundamentalist scholar of course denounced the heresy, claiming that the symbol obviously originated with Jesus himself.I wondered to myself if this co-opting was another example of organized Christianity trying to cover-up/assimilate what might be viewed as anti-Christian (as in the supposed scheduling of Christmas to replace pagan holidays).In any case, it is nice that so many perverts are willing to label themselves as such by affixing images of female genitals to the back of their cars for all to see...It seems Wyatt may continue this trend with his apparent interpretation of "penis" as "worshipper".

Hi, Mike, if you are inferring the Hebrew writing was engraved at the same time as the Golden Calf, shouldn`t it be in hieroglyphics/hieratics because the written script wasn`t in existence then. After the Six Day War, didn`t Israeli archaeologists crawl all over the Sinai (after all, it is THEIR history)? Results=nil.

Any recommendations on where to find good information on the six day war?

Hi, AD, you want the Six Day War or the Israeli search?

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I like the petroglyphs, but especially I desire the Ark of the covenant. Do you know where it is, can I have a look at it?

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Yes, it's in Ethiopia, allegedly, and no you cannot see it, as it curses those who look upon it.Edit: cattle do not have outward-turning horns, as far as I am aware. I think its an antelope.This message has been edited by contracycle, 04-05-2005 03:45 AM

hahaha. now i want to get a jesus fish and turn it upright lol.