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Theodoric
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Message 120 of 313 (700170)
05-30-2013 6:07 PM
Reply to: Message 110 by PaulGL
05-30-2013 4:15 PM


Re: To Catholic Scientist
Your post is totally false. France, even England, etc. were well-known when John wrote revelation.

You're hilarious. I wonder if Oni needs someone to open for him.

ANy idea what the people of the mideast called the area of France and England at that time. England and France were not well known at that time, as they did not exist at the time.

That would be the same as saying Saudi Arabia was well known at that time.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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Message 135 of 313 (700258)
05-31-2013 4:07 PM
Reply to: Message 124 by Faith
05-30-2013 11:02 PM


Re: cities on seven hills
Again, they ALL thought that.

Just for the record, there would have been no Protestant Reformation without the revelation of the Pope as the Antichrist.


What record would that be?
Can you show any of the leaders of the reformation that claimed the Pope was the anti-christ?

Start with one. We will go from there. This requires evidence, not assertion.


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Theodoric
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Message 144 of 313 (700288)
05-31-2013 10:17 PM
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05-31-2013 5:06 PM


Re: Reformers on Popes as Antichrist
Your still a long way from all "reformers". It is not very prudent to speak in absolutes.

Yes a number of the protestant reformers did write about the papacy being manifestation of the anti-christ. But my point is that you can not say that all did. Also, you are missing the subtlety of arguments of the reformers. At least Calvin did not think that the Pope was the antichrist. If you actually read his writings, the views of other "reformers" is similar, you will actually see that he refers to the Roman Catholic church as the kingdom of the anti-christ and well why don't we just use Calvins own words.

quote:
Daniel and Paul foretold that Antichrist would sit in the temple of God (Dan. 9:27; 2 Thess. 2:4); we regard the Roman Pontiff as the leader and standard-bearer of that wicked and abominable kingdom.

From: Institutes of the Christian Religion
(1559 edition; translated by Henry Beveridge, 1845)
(IV, 2, 11)

Though the Pope is the leader of this kingdom he is not the antichrist himself. Cuz, that would be silly. That would mean all popes are the anti-christ. I thought this anti-christ dude was supposed to have some sort of spectacular powers. If Pope Francis is the anti-christ I am going to put my money on the big JC. He is going to kick some satanic ass.

Is it going to be pay-per-view?


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Theodoric
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Message 203 of 313 (700683)
06-05-2013 10:59 PM
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06-05-2013 10:12 PM


Re: Endtime Battles
I own a good bit of stock in corporations, primarily through 401K's and IRA's, so I am bad and need to be warred upon?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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Theodoric
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Message 217 of 313 (700754)
06-06-2013 9:51 PM
Reply to: Message 216 by Faith
06-06-2013 8:21 PM


Re: Tower of Babel
Henry quotes Josephus, the Jewish historian in that paragraph.

So what?
Why does what Josephus, a historian(and traitor to the jewish people)not a religious scholar, matter?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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Theodoric
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Message 237 of 313 (700792)
06-07-2013 9:18 AM
Reply to: Message 218 by Faith
06-06-2013 11:06 PM


Re: Tower of Babel
What does he being a historian have anything to do with biblical interpretation?

Well if you post crap it will be pointed out to you.
ABE

And you pick THAT out of three big paragraphs to complain about?

Oh the Queen of misrepresentation strikes again. You did not write "three big paragraphs". You wrote 3 tiny sentences. Two of which extolled the writing of Josephus. Everything else was cut and paste.

Number 3 is the main interpretation of most other commentators. Henry quotes Josephus, the Jewish historian in that paragraph.

Edited by Theodoric, : Pointing out more of Faiths misrepresentations


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Theodoric
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Message 238 of 313 (700795)
06-07-2013 9:28 AM
Reply to: Message 220 by Thugpreacha
06-06-2013 11:13 PM


Re: Value Of Josephus Writings
I did a bit of online research and found your summation of Josephus to be far from conclusive nor even a majority view.

What are you claiming?
What is wrong with my summation of Josephus?
Why should we give his biblical interpretation any weight?

Sometimes I wonder why so many people try so hard to disprove the obvious.

Oh please stop being so cryptic. What are you trying to claim I am doing?

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Theodoric
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Message 243 of 313 (700817)
06-07-2013 1:53 PM
Reply to: Message 242 by Tangle
06-07-2013 1:28 PM


Re: Symbolism of the European Union
I don't see anything that could be construed as matching revelations. This whole thing is beyond crazy. It seems unless it is a statue of a guy nailed to a cross it has some relation to end of times.

Europa and the Bull.

Edited by Theodoric, : removed ? mark


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Theodoric
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Message 308 of 313 (804003)
04-06-2017 11:52 AM
Reply to: Message 307 by PaulK
04-06-2017 12:29 AM


Davidjay seem to be nothing more than copypasta.
Javier Solona left EU leadership in 2009

I wonder how long we are going to have to put up with this joker.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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