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Author Topic:   Endtime Prophecy and the European Union
NoNukes
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Message 143 of 313 (700286)
05-31-2013 9:25 PM
Reply to: Message 142 by jar
05-31-2013 8:03 PM


Re: Reformers on Popes as Antichrist
Pointless. Already said five times

Edited by NoNukes, : Lower the pile...


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I would say here something that was heard from an ecclesiastic of the most eminent degree; ‘That the intention of the Holy Ghost is to teach us how one goes to heaven, not how the heaven goes.’ Galileo Galilei 1615.

If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass


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NoNukes
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Message 215 of 313 (700742)
06-06-2013 6:18 PM
Reply to: Message 206 by Faith
06-06-2013 12:24 AM


Re: Tower of Babel
The part you quote is normally taken as a clue to this by those who understand the scripture, which obviously you don't.

You've just given the standard, "No true Scotsman" non answer. If you actually cared about sharing, wouldn't it be more effective to briefly outline the reasoning leading your position, than to spit out a quip. Maybe Dr. Adequate is simply incorrigible, but some lurker might be persuaded.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I would say here something that was heard from an ecclesiastic of the most eminent degree; ‘That the intention of the Holy Ghost is to teach us how one goes to heaven, not how the heaven goes.’ Galileo Galilei 1615.

If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass


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NoNukes
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Message 223 of 313 (700762)
06-07-2013 12:23 AM
Reply to: Message 216 by Faith
06-06-2013 8:21 PM


Re: Tower of Babel
quote:
which bespeaks a defiance of God, or at least a rivalship with him.

Isn't this pretty much the thrust of Dr. Adequate's position? I think everyone sees the rivalship interpretation of the Tower of Babel incident, and even the commentator admits a weakness in support for going beyond that to definance.

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Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I would say here something that was heard from an ecclesiastic of the most eminent degree; ‘That the intention of the Holy Ghost is to teach us how one goes to heaven, not how the heaven goes.’ Galileo Galilei 1615.

If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass


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NoNukes
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Message 259 of 313 (700957)
06-09-2013 11:03 PM
Reply to: Message 258 by Faith
06-09-2013 8:58 PM


Re: Tower of Babel
What they were refusing to do was to disperse, the dispersal that was necessary for replenishing the earth.

I think the best support for your position comes from Genesis 11:4:

quote:
And they said, Go to, let us build us a city, and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.

The problem I see is that the imperative to Noah was to replenish the earth, and 11:1 suggests that this was happening. Just because some people are congregating does not mean that God was being disobeyed in this respect.

Further, the author quotes God as giving a completely objection to the tower of Babel.

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Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I would say here something that was heard from an ecclesiastic of the most eminent degree; ‘That the intention of the Holy Ghost is to teach us how one goes to heaven, not how the heaven goes.’ Galileo Galilei 1615.

If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass


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