Endtime Prophecy and the European Union

That isn't particularly unusual. A couple of miles from my house, there's a statue of Queen Elizabeth II riding a horse.There are ten provinces in Canada. Coincidence?Yes, of course it is. There are probably hundreds of similar scenarios around the world that fit the Revelation as well as yours or better.

I ALREADY EXPLAINED THAT THE BEAST HAS TO BE A WILD OR DANGEROUS BEAST. A WOMAN RIDING A BULL IS AN UNUSUAL OCCURRENCE.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

NOBODY IS GRASPING AT ANYTHING. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT OCCURS INTUITIVELY. THERE IS NO WAY THERE COULD BE A PERFECT MATCH WITH THE REVELATION IMAGE, IT ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN. WHAT WE HAVE IS A SUGGESTIVE IMPRESSION. PERIOD. AND MANY OF US ARRIVED AT IT INDEPENDENTLY. WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH YOU PEOPLE?

Women used to ride bulls in ancient Crete, didn't they? Apparently, the End Times are long past.(You don't have to yell. I'm not as young as I used to be but I can still see lower case if I wear my glasses.)

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NOBODY IS GRASPING AT ANYTHING.

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Except for your clutching at straws,

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THIS IS SOMETHING THAT OCCURS INTUITIVELY

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And your point is ?

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THERE IS NO WAY THERE COULD BE A PERFECT MATCH WITH THE REVELATION IMAGE, IT ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN.

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I'll ask again. Why not ? And nobody is objecting that it isn't perfect, we're pointing out that it isn't even a halfway good match for the Revelation image and in fact is clearly a depiction of a quite different, well-known and appropriate image.

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WHAT WE HAVE IS A SUGGESTIVE IMPRESSION. PERIOD. AND MANY OF US ARRIVED AT IT INDEPENDENTLY. WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH YOU PEOPLE?

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Isn't a better question what is the matter with you ?

Horses are dangerous as crap. Nearly as bad as Shetland ponies.

Sure you are, you're trying to say that Europa on a bull is indicitive of the harlot on the beast. Its ridiculous.Europa riding a bull is ancient greek mythology. It predates chrisitan mythology. It has nothing to do with Revelations at all. The beast that the harlet rode wasn't just "dangerous or wild", it was downright supernatural with its multiple heads n'stuff. A bull couldn't possibly represent that creature. That's because you're incredibly credulous when it comes to end-times prophesy. Anything even remotely similiar is latched onto as a possibility. There's no honesty or rigor, its just whatever intuitively makes you think you're right about something. You don't know that. With God, all things are possible. Too bad you worship a book instead.If you want it to be some kind of prophesy, then you're going to have to have some kind of match. This one isn't even close. A worthless, wishfully thought, grasping at straws, ridiculously suggested, impression. That's because you are all, together, being tricked by the devil into seeing things that aren't really there. He's got a firm grasp on your lot, indeed. We're honest.

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Oh, and you need to look at this: Capslock on VS capslock off - The OatmealNotice the T-shirt...Edited by Catholic Scientist, : No reason given.

And if it were, none of us would be here to talk about it, would we?Let me ask you this...since you have read the Bible...Does the book indicate that Jesus will come back?

Yes, no, kinda, maybe ...As is so often the case the Bible is full of contradictions and ambiguity.

Not everything is a matter of unverifiable opinion, you know. We don't have to rely on mere hearsay. Some facts can be easily checked. You can download the seating plans for both European Parliament buildings here on the Europa website, like Dr. Adequate already did upthread.This is Eva Lichtenberger, MEP for the Austrian Green Party. For this session of Parliament, she has seat 666 in Brussels: This is Petru Constantin Luhan, MEP for the Romanian Liberal Democrat Party (which, lest you be confused by the contradictory political terminology of Europe, is in fact a centre-right party allied with the Christian Democrats). He has seat 666 is Strasbourg. It worries me that you're still listing as potential supporting evidence something that we checked and established to be clearly and uncontroversially untrue. What sort of evidence would it take for you to change an opinion?

Did you check how long the seat was empty before it was filled? Apparently in 1999 when the first meeting was held in the new building it was empty and that's what started the rumors. Ian Paisley is famous for having shouted down the Pope at a European congress of some sort, and for writing about the empty seat, here.At the following website I found a
Comment written two years ago by a Stuart B claiming to work at the Strasbourg Parliament, saying the seat was filled then but he gave different names than yours. Perhaps they change frequently? Again, how long did the seat, which I think means the Strasbourg seat, go empty before being filled by people presumably not the Antichrist?(Also, not that I think Mr. Luhan is the Antichrist, but I would point out that usually the Christian Democratic Party is a Catholic party)Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I'm unable to find the seating plan from 1999 anywhere, so I'm not sure what to make of hateful bigot Ian Paisley's claims. I'm having difficulty finding out how many seats there actually were inthe Strasbourg building in 1999. Paisley claims 680, but now there are almost 800. The Parliament was smaller in 1999, but expansion talks were well under way, so it seems a bit odd to me if the newly designed building wasn't prepared with enough seats to handle the 2004 elections. I'll see if I can figure this out later. Yes, I assume the seating plans do change from time to time, certainly at election times, but if this Stuart B. was correct two years ago, apparently in between. Mr. Mastella sits in 672 in Strasbourg at the moment, while Ms. Rivasi is in 65 at Brussels. Well, he's not a Christian Democrat, Romania has no Christian Democrat Party. The European People's Party, the main centre right grouping of which the Romanian Liberal Democrats are a member, contains 14 parties with the word 'Christian' in their title. It's difficult to say which ones are Catholic, since many of them have both Catholic and Protestant members. At least four (the Dutch Christian Democrat Appeal, Swedish Christian Democrats, Finnish Christian Democrats and the largest party - the German Christian Democratic Union) are overwhelmingly Protestant, though.ABE: So, I've done some trawling through the webs, and have discovered that the Strasbourg Parliament building was, indeed, built with 750 seats in the plenary chamber, to accommodate the expanded European Parliament that would come into being when new countries from Eastern Europe joined. There were, in 1999, on 626 MEPs, meaning that about 100 seats were left vacant (some being reserved for commissioners). Seat 666 was one of the hundred or so empty seats, whether this was just coincidence or whether it was done for the same reasons that some buildings don't have a floor 13, I have no idea.Since the big expansion of the EU in 2004, seat 666 in Strasbourg has been continuously occupied.Oh, and one erratum. Romania apparently does have a Christian Democratic Party, but they are small and don't have any representation in the European Parliament.Edited by caffeine, : No reason given.

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Where do you think John got the idea for his prophecy from? Answer: ancient greek mythology.