Some Specific Biblical Prophecies

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Nice context reading skills, Buz. It was your ally Quiz who said that perhaps they're using it to mean nation instead. I was telling him how that wouldn't work, either. You're absolutely right - it means generation. And the generation passed away.

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My apologies, Rei. Things are moving so fast here and I got that wrong. Nevertheless the generation has not passed away. I believe I've shown that to be the case substantially and no use in wasting our time trying to change one another on that, I see.

I am not gonna go into this to far as it is a branch hanging off the tree which we should be paying attention to but rather right now we are checking out the tree but have you ever herd of Joseph F Smith or maybe the picture his name is Gorden B Hinkley.-Quiz[This message has been edited by Quiz, 10-22-2003]

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Schraf has requested several prophecies to show the Bible to be supernatural. I believe this one has been shown to be fulfilled, but as I said, the ideologies of most of you stand or fall on whether it is indeed a bonafide fulfilled prophecy. I understand why you go to the lengths you do to discredit it. The text and history, nevertheless speak for themselves. Rather than go with another prophecy here, I'll soon do another one on another thread as this one is too lengthy, imo to extend into another subject. Feel free to add more input here, but I've alloted all the time I'm gona on responding to all the same yada on the generation thing.

You keep changing your position. Last tiem you said hte events were signs of Jesus' return, now they are simply events to happen before he returns (which is an indefinite period that can be infinitely extended).As for your claim that genea must be translated "dispensation", well THAT is a new one got any source for that ? Race would be "better" or you than nation but since no race has specifically been mentioned in Matther or Mark's version, and the implication is that the disciples woudl still be alive to see the events, "generation" is still a better translation (if inconvenient for you).And I see that you still have no answer to the evidence which suggests a later addition. In fact it seems clear that you were indeed relying on the assumption that Luke's Gospel must be accurate and that your denial was a knowing falsehood.

I never changed any position EVER what are you talking about! Might I add you are the person playing word games not I, you first picked to pick on me when I said awsome and now you are picking on another.I am not talking about generation any longer as I KNOW you are wrong.-Quiz[This message has been edited by Quiz, 10-22-2003][This message has been edited by Quiz, 10-22-2003]

That's a non-answer. I asked a reasonable question - two of them, in fact - and it's rather disrespectful of you to blow me off. Is this how you witness for your god?

Hi Rei,I didn't miss a single letter of your post. I didn't feel it necessary to point out that your qualifying words, "military buildup and harsh rhetoric", do not quite convey the same sense of immediate danger associated with actual events, namely a massing of Arab forces on the Israeli border concurrent with declarations of intentions to invade. And don't forget that Nasser also blockaded Israel's access to the Red Sea, and I believe almost all countries view naval blockades as acts of war. President Johnson wrote shortly after the war that, "If a single act of folly was more responsible for this explosion than any other it was the arbitrary and dangerous announced decision that the Strait of Tiran would be closed."It still seems to me that you're blaming Israel for causing the war when all they really did was initiate hostilities. Responsibility for the war does not lie solely, nor arguably even mostly, with Israel.--Percy

There is no condition. The only way you can do that is if you prove that Joseph F Smith is false prophet. I already believe that the bible cant stand alone.something that is biblical is called the Apostasy, from about the time of the saviors ascension untill the 1800' the earth or humanity suffered from it, I believe it was called the dark ages but I am not 100% sure. Anyways The point I am trying to make is that the bible is not Auth. Unless translated by a prophet of god that is the only way. So I hope that answeres your questions-Quiz[This message has been edited by Quiz, 10-22-2003]

Come off it. Anything "awsome" is also "impressive". Denying that is just a silly word game.And yes you do keep changing your position.DOoyou really think that all these falsehoods do anything more than undermine your position ?

Percy, do you really want to go into the background on the 6-day war?The first militarily-significant event occured on April 7, 1967, when Israel pursued Syrian MiG-21s into Syria, destroying 7 and even overflying Damascus. As I had mentioned earlier, there had been a military buildup, on *both* sides, not just on the arab nations. Numerous border incidents broke out after this between the high-alert forces on both sides (similar to the India-Pakistan shelling we witnessed a year ago). Likewise with the Israel-Palestine situation, harsh rhetoric became intense. Unlike that conflict, however, in this case one nation was unconcerned enough with international law to actually launch an invasion beyond its borders, but that's for later.On May 17th, Nasser requested that U.N.E.F evacuate Sinai; the UN complied. On May 23rd, Egypt closed the straights of Tiran to Israeli shipping. This is in violation of international law, although so was the initial Israeli fighter pursit - and if you want to get into naval blockades, you're sitting in a country which has used them plenty in its history.Israel had officially claimed to be worried because Jordan was in control of the West Bank (i.e., in a position to cut the nation in half), but in reality, its forces in the West Bank were incredibly weak, something that Israeli military officials were undoubtedly aware of.Without warning on June 5th, Israel launched an attack on the Egyptian air force, catching it off guard (it *wasn't* attack-ready), effectively taking 385 soviet-built aircraft out of the war (though bombing, straffing, and destroying runways). Without an Egyptian response, Israel then mobilized 3 divisions and sent them into Egypt (including 5 armored brigades). The rest is, well, history.Now, my comparison was to Kaiser Wilhelm II's invasion of France. Please tell me how this comparison doesn't stand up - from the rise in hostilities, to the interconnected alliances, to the preemptive invasion.------------------
"Illuminant light,
illuminate me."

At what? I was being serious.And to think your post was edited two times...------------------
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Rei, my point and purpose in citing this war to support the prophecy is that regardless of who did what in the war, the ruling occupation of the old walled city of Jerusalem was removed from the Gentiles for the first time since the prophecy was given, in fulfillment of that item of the prophecy by that war. Who to blame for the war is irrevelent to the purpose of the thread topic.

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Come off it. Anything "awsome" is also "impressive". Denying that is just a silly word game.
And yes you do keep changing your position.

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DOoyou really think that all these falsehoods do anything more than undermine your position ?

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Paulk all you are doing is trying to underline my character(LOL) That is something I dont care about when it comes to what you can think.(why do you keep taking personal jabs at me when we are talking about the bible cant you focus?) Now to the point, The generation the savior was talking about didn't mean the Apostles generation if you believe it did prove to me otherwise and I want concreate evidence not word games and definitions of words I WANT PROOF mr smart guy.LAUGH-Quiz[This message has been edited by Quiz, 10-22-2003]

and its funny and thats because I dont want to hurt your fealers..(lol)[This message has been edited by Quiz, 10-22-2003]