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Peter Member (Idle past 1479 days) Posts: 2161 From: Cambridgeshire, UK. Joined: |
If we are all descended from Noah, and Noah had not
only faith in the One God, but proof of his existence ... Why are there religions other than judaism and christianity ?
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Quetzal Member (Idle past 5872 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
Just another example of god's plan for human fallibility as a result of the Fall of Man. Or words to that effect...
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Peter Member (Idle past 1479 days) Posts: 2161 From: Cambridgeshire, UK. Joined: |
That's the sort of thing I'm expecting ... but one
always lives in hope
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TrueCreation Inactive Member |
Contary to Quetzals input
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RedVento Inactive Member |
quote: One question.. If that is the case how do you explain the existance of religions that predate the flood that are still around today?(Buddism & Taoism for example)
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w_fortenberry Member (Idle past 6107 days) Posts: 178 From: Birmingham, AL, USA Joined: |
quote: Another question... How do you know that Buddism and Taoism predate the flood?
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RedVento Inactive Member |
quote: Well I did a quick search to find out IF they did predate the flood, and cannot say they did, except for possible hinduism which originated 4000 BCE to 2200 BCE.. however the cultures that fostered these religions(Indian, Chinese) do predate the flood and as far as I know there is no mention of Judeism in their cultures after the "flood." So the question I should have asked is.. How do you explain pre flood culture and peoples that have not changed significantly directly pre-flood and directly post flood, or that there is no significant gap in cultures while the planet was being repopulated. I guess my real question is this.. how can I be expected to believe that the earth was repopulated by Noah and his family after an event that destroyed all life on the planet other than those chosen to survive on the Ark. That this select few then were able to repopulate the earth so quickly and still manage to diversify to the point that we now have 3 unique looking humans(Forgive the following):Black, White, Yellow, all with unique physical traits, from very different geographic locales. [This message has been edited by RedVento, 05-28-2002]
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w_fortenberry Member (Idle past 6107 days) Posts: 178 From: Birmingham, AL, USA Joined: |
quote: Allow me then to rephrase my question. How do you know that the Indian and Chinese cultures predate the flood?
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RedVento Inactive Member |
quote: Archeoligical records.
http://hawk.hama-med.ac.jp/dbk/chnpyramid.html has some interesting information about chinese pyramids and burial mounds, and links to more articles. It is a bit harder to find stuff about India since I keep getting references to Indians and Indiana.. but I will keep digging.. its a slow day.
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w_fortenberry Member (Idle past 6107 days) Posts: 178 From: Birmingham, AL, USA Joined: |
quote: The link you provided merely presented some dates without proving their validity.
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RedVento Inactive Member |
quote: Ok, check this one http://www.elore.com/Astrology/History/early.htm It talks about the history of Astronomy.. I am not sure what you are looking for in terms of "validity" since I can say the same thing about the bible.. All it is is a bunch of stories, where is the validating evidence.. At least the pyramids of china can be carbon dated, the bible has to be taken at its word..
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Peter Member (Idle past 1479 days) Posts: 2161 From: Cambridgeshire, UK. Joined: |
quote: But the whole of the human society would have been foundedby Noah's immediate family, for whom the existence of the One God was a given fact. ALL human societies would have this as their root. It would notbe forgotten, as it would leave extremely deep rooted biases. IF we are all descended from Noah's family, approx. 4500 years ago,that means that the Greeks, Druids, Phoenecians, Romans, Norsemen etc. just suddenly decided to make up big Pantheons of Gods. They created religous systems, and mythology, from scratch thatwere contrary to their founding father's KNOWLEDGE of what the case actually was, and against the grain of all of the deep rooted conventions that make up their whole thought processes.
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Peter Member (Idle past 1479 days) Posts: 2161 From: Cambridgeshire, UK. Joined: |
quote: That is actually a very good question. Could you please tell ushow many years ago the flood happened, providing scientific evidence to support your claim ? Once you've given us that we can debate which cultures pre-datethe flood.
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w_fortenberry Member (Idle past 6107 days) Posts: 178 From: Birmingham, AL, USA Joined: |
quote: You made the claim that certain cultures (Indian and Chinese) predate the flood. I am simply asking you what evidence your claim is founded upon. If that evidence is the carbon dating of the pyramids, please provide information on the tests performed to obtain that dating. If you have some other form of evidence, please present the details of that evidence. If you have made this claim without having any supporting evidence on hand, please admit so, find the said evidence, and resubmit your claims.
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w_fortenberry Member (Idle past 6107 days) Posts: 178 From: Birmingham, AL, USA Joined: |
quote: I may get to that eventually. Right now I am merely curious as to why our good friend is so sure that certain cultures predate the flood.
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