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funkmasterfreaky
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Message 2 of 33 (27794)
12-24-2002 3:16 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Gzus
12-24-2002 1:47 PM


I don't profess to know what heaven will be like. I think it will be like going home after being exiled and imprisoned in a horrible land.
if all is 'good', there is no such thing as 'good' since what do you measure 'goodness' by? won't you always do the most 'good' thing making your life predictable, unfree and robot-like? or do you have the choice to 'sin', preserving your free will?
I don't think we will ever lose the memories of our life here on earth, we will remember the horror of sin and it's terrible consequence and burden. There will still be something to measure it by and maybe that is why it was necessary for us to live this life here in these bodies.
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funkmasterfreaky
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Message 15 of 33 (27880)
12-26-2002 4:36 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by doctrbill
12-24-2002 9:52 PM


quote:
Originally posted by doctrbill:
quote:
Originally posted by funkmasterfreaky: I don't think we will ever lose the memories of our life here on earth, we will remember the horror of sin and it's terrible consequence and burden.
How can it be "heaven" if we are haunted by horrible and terrible memories?
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I didn't say anything about being haunted by sin, rather exactly the opposite.
Could you ever appreciate summer if there was no winter?
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funkmasterfreaky
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Message 16 of 33 (27881)
12-26-2002 4:41 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by Mr. Davies
12-24-2002 11:14 PM


quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Davies:
I heard heaven is much hotter than hell. In hell, there's boiling rivers of sulfur. However the brilliance that is described in heaven would make iron vaporize.

The brillance of the prescence of the Almighty must be incredible! Maybe that is why a fleshly being, limited so greatly, (as we discover through science,and the laws of science) cannot ever stand in his prescence.Maybe this is why we need a body resurected through Christ to stand in his presence?
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funkmasterfreaky
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Message 17 of 33 (27882)
12-26-2002 4:45 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by Gzus
12-25-2002 2:07 PM


quote:
Originally posted by Gzus:
The privilege of sin is basically our free will to right and wrong
I don't see any taking away of free will by the choice to choose right over wrong?
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funkmasterfreaky
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Message 22 of 33 (27923)
12-26-2002 2:38 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by shilohproject
12-26-2002 12:49 PM


It's all in how one sees it. But it doesn't seem to me to define good v. evil, right v. wrong, sin v. righteousness.
Nuts I thought it was a good analogy, does this work? If you never had to leave home for an extended period of time could we ever really appreciate our home?
I don't think so, seems to me that we would always be wanting to go abroad and see what else is out there and never be content with our home.In the same way our heavenly Father has sent us abroad to see and experince the opposite of him,in order that we might better understand and know him.He has also left the option of not coming home open to us.
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funkmasterfreaky
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Message 30 of 33 (28046)
12-29-2002 2:32 AM
Reply to: Message 28 by doctrbill
12-28-2002 11:00 PM


I guess I should have been more clear.I didn't mean to imply that the memory of living in the camp of the enemy would be haunting, I was more getting at the relief of no longer being in the camp.It is easy to take safety for granted when you have never known danger.
So instead of being "haunted" as you suggest, maybe being relieved of the pressure and stress of living in territory operated by the enemy.Having known this,we may appreciate much more the safety and security of proximity to God.
Hopefully I've been clearer this time.

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funkmasterfreaky
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Message 33 of 33 (30399)
01-28-2003 12:47 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by doctrbill
12-29-2002 9:13 PM


You find that scripture yet? Curious what you're talking about.
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