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Dan Carroll
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Message 181 of 191 (69251)
11-25-2003 4:46 PM
Reply to: Message 180 by Buzsaw
11-25-2003 4:44 PM


quote:
I hope you're not lumping me in that group, Dan. I thought I've made it clear that I don't necessarily buy the young earth -- Just the young creature interpretation.
I wasn't aware you felt that way, no. But now I know, and knowing, as they say, is half the battle.
My apologies for lumping.

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Buzsaw
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Message 182 of 191 (69252)
11-25-2003 4:53 PM
Reply to: Message 177 by Rei
11-25-2003 2:42 PM


Pure propaganda. I recommend you read some of my comments to Percy on this subject, where I reference remarks from some of the writings of
quote:
Israeli generals involved in the conflict. In short, Egypt had 80,000 troops who were not on combat-ready status on the border. Israel had 3 divisions, including 5 armored brigades, all high tech. The self-defense myth was created well after the war; you don't launch a 3-division attack without months of extensive planning and mobilization beforehand.
1. The Arabs also had high tech Russian equipment.
2. Israel is and has been always on the defensive and thus always combat ready. Besides, the Arab nations were talking war for some time before the war was inevitable. When it became emminent, Israel wisely struck pre-emptively. Had they not gotten the enemy air bases quickly, the result would've likely been much worse for Israel.

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Buzsaw
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Message 183 of 191 (69253)
11-25-2003 5:00 PM
Reply to: Message 181 by Dan Carroll
11-25-2003 4:46 PM


No problem Dan. There's a lota stuff I don't get around to reading either. I don't want to go off topic to explain, but I've explained in a couple of threads. Don't remember which. It has to do with the sun and moon being created on the 4th day and these determining the 24 hour days, the seasons and the years.

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Rei
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Message 184 of 191 (69256)
11-25-2003 5:11 PM
Reply to: Message 182 by Buzsaw
11-25-2003 4:53 PM


Side tangent about the Six Day War moved to its own thread:
The Six Day War: Right Or Wrong?
All participants who want to join are welcome. I recommend that any posters who wish to join read the initial post before responding. Buzsaw is especially invited to the new thread, I would love his input.
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"Illuminant light,
illuminate me."
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Buzsaw
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Message 185 of 191 (69257)
11-25-2003 5:18 PM
Reply to: Message 137 by Zealot
11-24-2003 9:19 PM


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Hehe Buzz, how long you been on these forums ? PS: You know you're doing well, when they start arguing about the true definition of the topic you are discussing and choose the most obscure option. Then the "but what if" hypotheticals start
Im off for a logn while . Whoo hoo sunny skies and beach for close to 2 months! Hehe, keep up the fight Stay well..
I've been doing forums for about 4 years now. Been here a year or so, I think. I wish you well in the sunshine. Don't get skin cancer and get back to us when you get to a pc. We need you and you need us.

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zephyr
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Message 186 of 191 (69420)
11-26-2003 12:30 PM
Reply to: Message 185 by Buzsaw
11-25-2003 5:18 PM


HAHA!
Hey guys! Look at one of your posts, then look at the avatar. See the 3 lines of text underneath it? Read the last.
Bingo....
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Ragnarok10
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Message 187 of 191 (69632)
11-27-2003 6:44 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by ConsequentAtheist
11-23-2003 6:14 PM


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Gosh golly gee, Apollyon, you skipped right by gMat 24:34, i.e.
Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
How odd.
I am not sure what you mean by this. In LXX, the word "generation" is read as "dor" meaning age of man, generation in the sense of contemporary. However, earlier versions write "generation" as "genea" meaning birth, pregnancy, or progeny as in "races" Again, i am not sure what in the world you were trying to convey. Could you clarify your meaning? Unless you meant that the latter verse and the former verses were connected, I don't think you have a point there...

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Amlodhi
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Message 188 of 191 (69637)
11-27-2003 8:53 PM
Reply to: Message 187 by Ragnarok10
11-27-2003 6:44 PM


Bit of a mix-up
Hello Ragnarok10,
quote:
Originally posted by Ragnarok10
In LXX, the word "generation" is read as "dor" meaning age of man, generation in the sense of contemporary. However, earlier versions write "generation" as "genea". . .
You don't mean this. "Dor" is Hebrew for "generation", not Greek. "Generation" in the LXX is "genea" and there are no earlier (Greek) versions.
Namaste'
Amlodhi

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Ragnarok10
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Message 189 of 191 (69656)
11-28-2003 12:09 AM
Reply to: Message 188 by Amlodhi
11-27-2003 8:53 PM


Re: Bit of a mix-up
Oh yes, thank you very much for clarifying. I did get mixed up unintentionally. earth to myself (what the heck was I thinking?) Anyway, my question still stands. I do not get what CA meant by saying "how odd" unless he wished to make a point that the verses 34 and 35 had a nexus and therefore, seemed contradictory. Anyone?

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ConsequentAtheist
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Message 190 of 191 (70161)
11-30-2003 9:11 PM
Reply to: Message 189 by Ragnarok10
11-28-2003 12:09 AM


Re: Bit of a mix-up
I did get mixed up unintentionally.
You come here with your feigned naive question (i.e., "What's the difference between Torah and the Christian Bible?"), and then presume to inform us about the Septuagint Vorlage - although you badly screw up the presentation. Personally, I think your trolling, and doing a pathetically poor job of it.

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Ragnarok10
Member (Idle past 7423 days)
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Joined: 11-15-2003


Message 191 of 191 (70165)
11-30-2003 9:36 PM
Reply to: Message 190 by ConsequentAtheist
11-30-2003 9:11 PM


Re: Bit of a mix-up
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You come here with your feigned naive question (i.e., "What's the difference between Torah and the Christian Bible?"), and then presume to inform us about the Septuagint Vorlage - although you badly screw up the presentation. Personally, I think your trolling, and doing a pathetically poor job of it.
I did not troll, gramps.(just a joke, haha) As for the LXX, I did a googling on yahoo. So don't you go around being cynical, mr. sweet lemon. You think you know something by going around and quoting Israel Finkelstein and Silberman and act as if he's the top notch archaeologist in that area. Personally, I think his writings(from what I've read) have a superficial knowledge basis with professional overtones that do not have enough detailed crap. I heard from an atheist contact of mine that he says that there were no camels domesticated around Moses' time. I think Mr. Finkelstein is either seriously joking or just gone brain dead at the time he was writing. First off, we have no clue as to when Moses lived. We can guess probably 1300 BC to 1450 BC. (Correct me if I am wrong and what "professional" Mr. Finkelstein thinks on this regard.) And also, camels have existed from 3000 BC (I asked a person whose vocation is studying camels, whatever the term describes that occupation) They've gone extinct in many areas, but the Bactrian camels survived and became slowly domesticated. This happened earlier than 1210 BC which might agree with Moses' era. I seriously don't think some Jewish professor, who could be secular for all I know, has any authority, especially when he has his enemies all over the place near his country and he teaches at some stupid university in Tel-Aviv. But of course, being dense in the brain as you are, you can't be blamed. My condolences.

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