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Topic: "The Exodus Revealed" Video II
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Asgara
Member (Idle past 2330 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: 05-10-2003
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Re: A question.
We're not sure. All we have is a video and some photos professing to be of chariot wheels in the Gulf of Aqaba. Personally the photos of coral shapes do not look like anything to me until they do the photo layering to superimpose a wheel like shape on top of the coral. What we do not have is mapping of coordinates, measurement devices in the photos, documentation of any presentation to peer review literature, carbon dating testing on any organic wood left in the supposed wheels, or (edited to add) concensus on location of crossing. This message has been edited by Asgara, 08-06-2004 10:57 PM
Asgara "Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever....but get over it" http://asgarasworld.bravepages.comhttp://perditionsgate.bravepages.com
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Asgara
Member (Idle past 2330 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: 05-10-2003
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Message 109 of 603 (131334)
08-07-2004 1:02 PM
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Reply to: Message 102 by JimSDA
08-07-2004 12:32 PM
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Re: Moslem countries....
Are you really that dumb? Why do you resort to name calling when others don't believe you or simply ask for corroboration? Others have asked for a list of your evidence...you answer with a pop-sci video and book. Others mention that pop-sci books and videos are not evidence in and of themselves...you answer with irrelevant issues about the Nobel Prize. Others have tried to explain the scientific method to you and have asked how your assertions follow this methodology...you answer with name calling. Others have asked what evidence is in Wyatt's museum...you answer with go and see. Others have asked what further tests have been done on the supposed evidence...you answer with name calling because the evidence is in Saudi territory and no one can get to it. If the answer to every question on this forum is found in a book or video somewhere then what is this forum for?? No one is here to debate a book, or debate a video. Your side is the one that brought up this video. Others ask for further evidence and are met with accusations of bias, name calling and arguments from authority...and somehow we're the dumb ones. Why can't you admit that what you might have is some interesting ideas with some observations that need more testing but it is difficult to do the further testing because of political issues. What you do not have is evidence of anything. Others have been trying for over 60 pages to tell you what evidence is and what needs to be done for your finds and observations to be considered evidence and you do not listen...and we're the dumb ones.... Please refrain from the name calling until you can answer even one of the questions put to you...
Asgara "Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever....but get over it" http://asgarasworld.bravepages.comhttp://perditionsgate.bravepages.com
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Asgara
Member (Idle past 2330 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: 05-10-2003
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Message 128 of 603 (131369)
08-07-2004 3:46 PM
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Reply to: Message 127 by Hydarnes
08-07-2004 3:42 PM
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Re: To Lysimachus
Hydarnes, there is nothing to be taken "in its entirety" if each individual claim cannot be verified.
Asgara "Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever....but get over it" http://asgarasworld.bravepages.comhttp://perditionsgate.bravepages.com
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Asgara
Member (Idle past 2330 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: 05-10-2003
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Message 130 of 603 (131374)
08-07-2004 4:08 PM
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Reply to: Message 129 by CK
08-07-2004 3:53 PM
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Re: To Lysimachus
No Charles, they have not. I do not believe that they fully understand what is meant by "evidence". They have various observations that have lead them to a hypothesis. NOW comes the verficication of each of these observations, the independent testing, the documentation, the peer review... They do not understand this. The honestly believe their observations lead to the "truth."
Asgara "Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever....but get over it" http://asgarasworld.bravepages.comhttp://perditionsgate.bravepages.com
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Asgara
Member (Idle past 2330 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: 05-10-2003
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Message 206 of 603 (131657)
08-08-2004 3:34 PM
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Reply to: Message 205 by JimSDA
08-08-2004 3:28 PM
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Re: You've already seen the posts....
And I believe you have been told that Moller's place of employment in an unrelated field has nothing to do with what he is doing at Aqaba. You have also been informed that a pop-sci book, video and TV documentary are not science and have nothing to do with an actual scientific investigation. You have been informed that what you have are possibly observations that have lead you to form a hypothesis. Great. NOW comes the questions that everyone has asked you and you refuse to answer.
Asgara "Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever....but get over it" http://asgarasworld.bravepages.comhttp://perditionsgate.bravepages.com
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Asgara
Member (Idle past 2330 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: 05-10-2003
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Message 243 of 603 (131774)
08-09-2004 2:21 AM
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Reply to: Message 241 by Trae
08-09-2004 1:58 AM
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Re: An interview with Lennart Moller...
Wow, all those holiday dive locations listed online look really fun. Maybe the Wyatt/Moller bunch and get together long enough to tell us what popular dive location at Nuweiba is closest to all their evidence.
Asgara "Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever....but get over it" http://asgarasworld.bravepages.comhttp://perditionsgate.bravepages.com
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Asgara
Member (Idle past 2330 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: 05-10-2003
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The chariot wheels are found across the southern part of the bridge, and you also must go out far enough to see them. I might also add that when Ron and his team did the diving, they went out into deep waters. One day the chariot parts could be easily identified. Another day they would come back and they were not there. These shifting sands out in the deeper parts make it really difficult. I would be interested in exactly how far south from the main resort area this would be. Exactly how far out are we talking? How deep were the waters the wheels were found in?
Asgara "Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever....but get over it" http://asgarasworld.bravepages.comhttp://perditionsgate.bravepages.com
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Asgara
Member (Idle past 2330 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: 05-10-2003
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Message 371 of 603 (132351)
08-10-2004 12:09 PM
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Reply to: Message 330 by Asgara
08-09-2004 8:44 PM
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I just don't want post 330 to get lost in the back messages.
Asgara "Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever....but get over it" http://asgarasworld.bravepages.comhttp://perditionsgate.bravepages.com
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Asgara
Member (Idle past 2330 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: 05-10-2003
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Re: Moller's video...
Post 330 when you have the time please.
Asgara "Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever....but get over it" http://asgarasworld.bravepages.comhttp://perditionsgate.bravepages.com
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Asgara
Member (Idle past 2330 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: 05-10-2003
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Re: Moller's video...
In other words, your claim that their dives were farther out, farther south, and deeper were just a guess? Thanks for verifying.
Asgara "Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever....but get over it" http://asgarasworld.bravepages.comhttp://perditionsgate.bravepages.com
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Asgara
Member (Idle past 2330 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: 05-10-2003
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Message 470 of 603 (133233)
08-12-2004 1:05 PM
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Reply to: Message 467 by Hydarnes
08-12-2004 12:50 PM
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Re: E v i d e n c e .
Not to be nitpicky, but the word translated at gods in Exodus 32:4 is exactly the same word translated as God in Genesis 1:1
Asgara "Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever....but get over it" http://asgarasworld.bravepages.comhttp://perditionsgate.bravepages.com
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Asgara
Member (Idle past 2330 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: 05-10-2003
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Re: E v i d e n c e .
Please, the name of this Saudi archaelogist, where and when he said this, where I can find the quote.
Asgara "Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever....but get over it" http://asgarasworld.bravepages.comhttp://perditionsgate.bravepages.com
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Asgara
Member (Idle past 2330 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: 05-10-2003
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Re: E v i d e n c e .
You know Lys, others here can correct me if I'm wrong, but the infamous janitor from the Karolinska Institute could be credible if he followed the scientific method, documented everything possible concerning his finds, and submitted his information to peer reviewed publications. It is because you continue to hero worship Moller and his "credentials" that you put these credentials up for critique. It does not matter who does the work if the work is done correctly. It does not matter what the credentials of the worker are if he does slip-shod work.
Asgara "Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever....but get over it" http://asgarasworld.bravepages.comhttp://perditionsgate.bravepages.com
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Asgara
Member (Idle past 2330 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: 05-10-2003
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Message 538 of 603 (133414)
08-12-2004 10:10 PM
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Reply to: Message 537 by CK
08-12-2004 10:08 PM
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Re: Come on Admin - this is getting beyond a joke!
I agree Charles, and I would have my alter ego close it down but then I would never hear the end of how I let my bias get in the way.
Asgara "Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever....but get over it" http://asgarasworld.bravepages.comhttp://perditionsgate.bravepages.com
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Asgara
Member (Idle past 2330 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: 05-10-2003
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Message 545 of 603 (133432)
08-12-2004 10:46 PM
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Reply to: Message 544 by NosyNed
08-12-2004 10:39 PM
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Re: Frustrating
Yes, Ned...how frustrating to be told "we have A, B, C, D, E, F..and it is evidence that G happened" When the sequence is looked at it turns out that B might really be W ... E is consistent with P, T, and Z ... some guy, who I assure you is an expert, says C is correct ... When questioned all we get is...I SHOWED YOU how A, B, C, D, E, and F lead right to G, it is the TOTALITY of the evidence.
Asgara "Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever....but get over it" http://asgarasworld.bravepages.comhttp://perditionsgate.bravepages.com
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