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Message 16 of 16 (177333)
01-15-2005 7:54 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by doctrbill
01-15-2005 7:05 PM


Re: Doc Bill?
The primary purpose of the movement was to whip up support for Christ (i.e. a Jewish kingdom come) from among Jews of the "diaspora."
Yes. BUT................................(there's always that but)
There is a small incongruity, a blip that stands out for me.
There is little evidence of the diaspora extending into India and Northern Europe. Yet we see indications of the original group of Apostles heading off to Great Britian and to India. That to me is remarkable. If we look at the original body or leaders or elders we are talking about well under twenty people. We are also talking about a short time period, perhaps as little as twenty years, as many as seventy years.
Why did about one quarter of the original leaders take off for distant places? Just to build an organization in the area around the Mediterranean would have been an immense task.
Jews are clear enough on what it meant to be "The Christ." In fact, it seems that everyone but Christians themselves is aware that Christianity is a political religion. The "mission to the gentiles" was politically motivated. That is why it attracted censure from the Roman government.
Do you agree?
Certainly. But that is only because all we have records of is the political movement. The whole remaining Cannon in the Roman or Orthodox churches is from the political movement.
But there are hints from other sources. For example, the Gospel of Thomas paints a far different image of the existing theology, one that is far more Eastern Mystic, contemplative in nature. Since we have no information about the early church or the non-political, thological factions within the church, we can't really say what the early movement was like.
I believe you are right about that. The question then becomes: Is what we do know actually correct? Is it the real truth about those rebellious men, their master and their movement? I think we have reason to believe that the whole thing has been glamorized. Yes?
Oh, I'm quite sure that things have been glamorized. LOL
But there is one other thing that I think is important and often overlooked. So much of what we do have in the NT is the documents from the period of creating the bureaucracy, of building the body politic. When we look at the Pauline and John documents we are looking at an attempt to formalize and redact an existing system. We also see a little of the conflict between Paul and Peter, but again, only hints beyond that.
So the only real record we have is from the period where Christianity was becoming exclusionary instead of inclusionary. It is the purged version, the revised history.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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