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jar
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Message 224 of 311 (369325)
12-12-2006 2:52 PM
Reply to: Message 215 by anastasia
12-12-2006 1:41 PM


Re: History, not theology, best explains the origin of the trinity idea
This means that when Jesus left the godhead and came to earth as man, he actually left His divinity behind!
If He did not leave His divinity behind then the story of Jesus is meaningless and a sham. The idea that Jesus while on earth is not divine but only man is supported biblically as well as through the Creeds.
However that is leading way off topic. The key point is that the Bible is filled with contradictions as any anthology of anthologies will be. It reminds me of a practice that used to be quite common particularly in the Science Fiction monthlies. The senior editor would assign a basic concept to several writers who would then write a short story based on the concept. Each story stood on its own merit, but if you looked at the collection as an unit you would of course find contradictions between the stories. If events mentioned in one story were considered, then events in another became impossible.
The Bible is exactly the same.
IMHO the biggest single contradiction in the Bible, one that must be addressed to understand the Bible at all, is the two totally different views of GOD found in the God of Genesis 1 and the God of Genesis 2.
These two books are significant IMHO because they tell us so much about the goals, thoughts and beliefs of the various redactors and editors that compiled the Bible whether we are speaking of the Jews compiling the Torah or the Christians compiling the Old Testament.
The beginning books of the Bible are unique.
There, the redactors include mutually exclusive creation stories, they place the younger version first before the older version, even though they were certainly capable of seeing that the two versions contradict each other in order, method and even the portrayal of GOD.
They do not try to revise the texts to make them fit even though they did edit at least two versions of the creation myth into one in the version that picks up about Genesis 2:4.
The fact that they did combine several sources together and smooth out internal inconsistencies within the older version that begins with Genesis 2:5 shows that they were both capable of editing the tales and not hesitant to do so.
So IMHO we must ask, "Why did the redactors include two tales that are mutually exclusive, that reiterate pretty much the same theme and change the order so that the newer version comes first with the older ones following instead of maintaining a chronological order?"

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 301 of 311 (370420)
12-17-2006 4:02 PM
Reply to: Message 298 by Rob
12-17-2006 3:55 PM


Genesis 3:5
"For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."
It is also known as humanism.
Of course that is NOT what the Bible says or implies at all. It says nothing about humanism and in fact GOD Herself acknowledges that humans have become like Gods in many ways.
Genesis 3 still:
22And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
The man is become as one of us
Nothing there about humanism.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 310 of 311 (370429)
12-17-2006 4:24 PM
Reply to: Message 309 by Rob
12-17-2006 4:19 PM


Just pointing out why God was afraid in Genesis 3.
I was simply pointing out what God said in Genesis 3. He said nothing about humanism, nothing about a "suducing[sic] spirit", only that Man had become as one of us.
I think you must be one of those Christians who think there was some Fall.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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