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Dead Parrot Member (Idle past 3367 days) Posts: 151 From: Wellington, NZ Joined: |
if you will look at my website you will see that a scientist by the name of Dr. Lennart Moller fully re-investigated Ron's sites and published the materials -- he works in Sweden at the Karolinska Institute, right where they hand out Nobel Prizes! Dr. Lennart MollerDept. of Medical Nutrition Center for Nutrition & Toxicology Research Park NOVUM Karolinska Institute S-14157 Huddinge Stockholm, Sweden 46-8-608-9189 FAX: 46-8-774-6833 I'd trust him to advise me on my diet, but what are his qualifications for ark-eology? Mat 27:5 And he went and hanged himself Luk 10:37 Go, and do thou likewise.
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JimSDA Inactive Member |
Sorry, MikeHager -- But after having to put up with over 10 years of being bashed by the atheists on forums like this, I have nothing but contempt for them -- and it's biblical to kick the dust off of one's feet and leave them to be lost!
Too bad this is your first exposure to Ron's discoveries -- Try to understand that even God Himself is getting tired of dealing with people like this, and when the Lord returns these people are going to be eternally lost -- sad but true, unless they change their tunes! Am I too nasty to them? Just wait to see how Jesus treats them . . . This message has been edited by JimSDA, 05-02-2005 09:47 PM
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JimSDA Inactive Member |
Dead Parrot, the credentials you list for Dr. Moller are just his main field of expertise -- how many years has he been studying the other fields like archaeology? You don't know! How many of his buddies are Nobel Prize winners and/or people who award Nobel Prizes?
You have no idea who Dr. Moller hangs with -- He has published an extensive 320-page hardcover book about Ron's discoveries for all of his Nobel Prize peers to see, so let's not start thinking he's some kind of dummy, OK? This message has been edited by JimSDA, 05-02-2005 09:52 PM
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Dead Parrot Member (Idle past 3367 days) Posts: 151 From: Wellington, NZ Joined: |
Dead Parrot, the credentials you list for Dr. Moller are just his main field of expertise -- how many years has he been studying the other fields like archaeology? You don't know! That's why I asked. Are you going to answer, or is this another futile quest for information?
How many of his buddies are Nobel Prize winners and/or people who award Nobel Prizes? I give up. Tell me. Then tell me why I should care.
He has published an extensive 320-page hardcover book about Ron's discoveries for all of his Nobel Prize peers to see, Assuming they can be bothered to read it.
so let's not start thinking he's some kind of dummy, OK? I never said he was. I'm sure he's an excelent nutritionist, but that wasn't what I asked. Mat 27:5 And he went and hanged himself Luk 10:37 Go, and do thou likewise.
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9003 From: Canada Joined: |
I'm afraid Jim that both the forum guidelines and common sense discussion requires that you support your statements. No one would buy a used car from someone who makes statments and when questioned is unable to back them up.
You may rant all you want but that isn't fooling anyone. Many here have seen this before. The reactions range from annoyed to amused.\ I am pretty sure you will do more than annoy some of the true Christians here with your characterization of Jesus as doing something "nasty". Even I know that is not the message of the Bible. It seems that those that mess up the correct interpretations of the old testament also can't handle the message of the New Testament.
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Jim
I have asked specific questions which you have so far refused to answer. One of the rules you agreed to when you joined this forum was to support your assertions when asked. They are in Message 64 as well as Message 60 and Message 55. Please provide specific answers to the very specific questions asked. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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Nighttrain Member (Idle past 4016 days) Posts: 1512 From: brisbane,australia Joined: |
Jim, this is all old water. We pulled Moller, the Exodus crossing, Jebel al Lawz,etc. apart months ago. Do you have amnesia? If you say Sinai is not Sinai, but Arabia, the same failings apply, No vast numbers of human remains, no artifacts, no great numbers of livestock bones, not even signs of the 3000 slaughtered at Mt. Sinai. Evidence, man, not single items which may or may not have been planted. Lashing out at skeptics is not going to make your case stronger.
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JimSDA Inactive Member |
Nighttrain, you're right, we went through all this before and it will obviously do no good to go through it again.
When Dr. Moller's $2 million movie comes out later this year, be sure not to see it. It won't do you any good.
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Dead Parrot Member (Idle past 3367 days) Posts: 151 From: Wellington, NZ Joined: |
When Dr. Moller's $2 million movie comes out later this year, be sure not to see it. Monty Python's "Life of Brian" had a budget of $4 million, so it must be twice as accurate. Go and see that instead. Incidentally, Jim, will Dr. Moller's film answer any of the questions you've carefully avoided in this thread, or will we have to wait for you to do so? Mat 27:5 And he went and hanged himself Luk 10:37 Go, and do thou likewise.
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Bump to hopefully finally get some answers.
There are still specific questions waiting for your response. see Message 55 and
Message 60 and
Message 64 and
Message 81. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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mikehager Member (Idle past 6489 days) Posts: 534 Joined: |
You certainly aren't improving my original perception.
Try to understand that even God Himself is getting tired of dealing with people like this, Am I to understand that you know the mind of god the father?
Just wait to see how Jesus treats them . . . ...and god the son? In any case, I have seen little or no criticism of christian doctrine in this thread, just of Mr. Wyatt's findings. Is it an offense punishable by damnation to not agree with Ron Wyatt?
Am I too nasty to them? Yes, I think you are and if you behave like this any significant percentage of the time, I would have to say you are likely a very nasty person. Perhaps I'm wrong. Why don't you prove it by stopping throwing around insults when challenged? It really does make it look like you have no answers.
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1366 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
Is it an offense punishable by damnation to not agree with Ron Wyatt? only if ron wyatt is a genuine prophet of the divine, or perhaps the messiah. that is sort of the position we're arguing here, right? he claims to have found these things according to divine inspiration. whether or not he's right, he seems to have thought god talked to him, and lead him places.
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Nighttrain Member (Idle past 4016 days) Posts: 1512 From: brisbane,australia Joined: |
Pity Ron isn`t still with us, Arach. He could answer all those tricky little translation questions you keep bringing up.
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JimSDA Inactive Member |
You guys say that you're searching for the Truth regarding Ron's discoveries -- the discoveries deal with biblical archaeology, so there is going to be an aspect involved here of "spiritual discernment." Some of you guys probably even believe that you are believers in God (which, by the way, is typed with a capital "G") -- but your knowledge of science has made you all "hyper-critical" --
I told you before that verifying an ancient archaeological site that is thousands of years old is not always easy, so the "discernment" factor will come into play when reviewing the evidence -- So, what type of Truth-seekers are the people on this forum who are constantly arguing with me? Are they reasonable, or are they unreasonable? Are they open-minded, or are they closed-minded? Are they unbiased, or biased? Are they really after the Truth, or are they here to stroke their egos? Any of the people on this forum who look at Ron's material and say "there's no proof" I have no time for because they are just here to cause arguments and be a pain -- because there's no way Ron's material would be published if there was "nothing" to it, and there's no way I would have managed Ron's 1st museum if there was "nothing" to show people, and there's no way that Dr. Lennart Moller in Sweden would have ever done his book or film about the discoveries if there was "nothing" to them! So the next time someone on this forum writes that there is no evidence for the discoveries, how about some of you other guys on this forum repromanding that person and tell him that he is grossly out of line? The only type of person that belongs on this forum thread is a person who is willing to be reasonable about looking at the evidence and calmly discussing it -- and within that discussion there has to be an understanding that it is **OK** for someone to believe in the discoveries! It's OK, guys! It's not a crime, it's a freedom that every person living in this country has! We have the freedom to believe in whatever we wish, and share those believes with others. You folks act like you'd like to tie me to a stake and set me on fire just because I share my positive opinion about the discoveries with you -- I show you the links, I show you the books, I show you the pictures, I show you solid evidence, and you all think that unless I answer every single hyper-critical question to your satisfaction that I have "cheated" you of something -- yet you don't understand that it took us YEARS to uncover even the evidence we DO have, AND THE PROCESS IS AN ON-GOING WORK-IN-PROGRESS! You all have questions? Fine! Just realize that it is going to take time (maybe even several more years) to get around to getting them answered! Is this my fault? Is it Ron's fault? Is it going to be Lennart Moller's fault? No, it's just the nature of the work -- we are trying to verify and document some discoveries that are very difficult to do, and the best attitude of you "by standers" is to be patient and look at the on-going evidence as it becomes available. Arguing to negate everything does no one any good. The work has to continue, and if you want solid scientific work done on the sites, then you people should do your best to influence other professionals to get involved with working on the sites with a little less complaint and/or negativity! Do you want the work to continue or not? The Bible tells us that the meek are going to inherit the Earth -- think about it, guys -- meekness regarding these "controversial" discoveries may be the one and only way that the Truth of the discoveries can ever be seen. Remember your old days of school -- who did the best job of studying in classes, people who calmly behaved themselves as they took in the information, or the out-of-control loudmouth trouble-maker who disrupted the class? Stop disrupting the forum discussion, guys, and with the proper "meek" spirit you might be able to actually learn something here that can be a real blessing!
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ArchaicGuy Inactive Member |
JimSDA: I'm willing to give Ron Wyatt the benefit of a doubt that his location of Jabal El Lawz maybe the actual site where Moses received the Ten commandments? I had friends who worked with Ron Wyatt in Turkey at the presumed site for Noah's Ark. I met David Fasold in 1992 when he stopped by the Israeli Kibbutz to confirm the tour to Turkey to the Noah's Ark site planned for June 1992. Unfortunately, it was cancelled at the last moment. I agree with you about Turkey being a secular nation in name only. Please don't insult Nat.Geo. and PBS.National Geographic Society offers to fund excavations near Qumran, Israel a friend of mine plans for each year. He is the only one that can politely refuse Nat. Geo.'s funding. He disagrees with the way Nat. Geo. handles their expeditions. Minor disagreements. Nothing major.
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