Inerrancy of the Bible 2

Jar,Having found the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch, perhaps Monty Python will be able to unearth the Pharoh's Phlashlight? The might laser that can cast shadows even in full sunlight!chanting "tedium tedium" ***WHACK***lfen

no, seriously. are you doing this to make us laugh? i live in florida, btw. we had 5 hurricanes in a row, two that demolished half the state and left us without power for two weeks. bush spent money on iraq those two weeks. you mean jonah? no, seriously. are you kidding us? well, here in america, we have something called "demoncracy" instead of "divine right of kings." that means that people vote and choose the president, if indirectly. so a more accurate statement would be "the people have chosen gwb" you're good at stereotypical bible quotes. find me one about the anti-christ leading many astray.

I've got things to do, taking a sabbatical. I did appreciate how you all helped me understand how inerrant the bible actually is, by allowing me to spin off your spin. Its an interesting way to learn, spinning off spin. Part of me wants to continue spinning against your spin, but that only supporting your need to spin. Its time for me to spin on out of here. Tom

See you later Tom.Next time, don't make it so obvious Brian

Where`s Incognito? I want to hit him with more trivia.

Tom Ah yes the wisdom of ancient astrologers who were clueless to the actual state of stars.The Pleides in demonstrate no influence on the actions of men and as for the stars of Orion:As the following chart shows the distances of the stars of Orion from us vary by large amounts.They are not bound.Yet another error by the writers in the bible.They just cannot seem to get it right eh?

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A centipede was happy quite, until a toad in fun
Said, "Pray, which leg comes after which?'
This raised his doubts to such a pitch
He fell distracted in the ditch
Not knowing how to run.

I think he is outa here. Like Tom he saw that our best arguments were like water on a duck's back, the KJV remains inerrant and the process of evidence is tedious.lfen

Actually, many of the string theories point to a cyclical universe, not one that is 'instantanious'.

Hmm, Tom’s gone, let's see what I can pull off...1) Brian, please don't quote authors who aren't mathematicians... 70 people would only produce about 10,000 in 400 years? Is this guy serious? His roughly 10% growth rate would indicate a doubling period of 7 years under the Rule of 70 for exponential growth... But this involves people, not money, so let's be conservative and assume the original 70 people could only make 35 couples most... If each couple waited an average of 20 years to have kids and each couple averaged a 4 kid survival rate. You'd be looking at a population over 10,000,000 (not 10,000) in less then 400 years...The other problem your author runs into is the fact that the Sinai, as I mentioned previously, was not always a sandy wasteland paradise. Applying today's population assumptions to it is flat wrong (for example, Egypt didn't have 5.5 million land mines in the Sinai back during Exodus)A better error would be how 3,000,000 people got lost for 40 years2) Sidelined, please don't bring up Religious ignorance and atrocities unless you can answer for the fact that Atheism/Evolution has spawned 100 years of modern warfare/atrocities/academic suppression that have killed a combined 200 million people, ruined economies, and sent some nations' knowledge levels into the stone age.3) NosyNed, I will not state Genesis supports the traditional Big Bang because that allows too much room for OEC to inject their billions of years timelines. String Theory hypothesizes that the universe pretty much dispersed to its present positions in a fraction of a second. But you are correct; we are years from formulating an "agreed-upon" String Theory. I'm putting my money on YEC...4) Nighttrain - bring on the trivia.5) Sidelined - so you are providing astronomical data to support that Orion is not bound and that the Pleiades (a group of stars I think) are bound? If that is your point, I have no problem with that, in fact that is just what the text says.6) Ramoss, read up on your cyclical String theories, they should all have the same near instantaneous initial expansion regardless of end state...7) Ifen and Jar the 1-liners and lack of meaningful points aren't enhancing your credibility...Seriously though, keep bringing up what you would label errors. I have a feeling anything error related is just due to our current scientific/historical ignorance, but I’m curious just the same. 36 Christians if you’re still reading, all of you should plan on studying Physics to help us prove Ahaz/Joshua’s Long Day, etc.Again, thank all of you for helping my Faith grow, the more "errors" that turn out not to be "errors" the more I Believe...This message has been edited by Incognito, 01-23-2005 00:35 AMThis message has been edited by Incognito, 01-23-2005 00:37 AMThis message has been edited by Incognito, 01-23-2005 00:39 AM

Would you be specific here please. I will easily guess you are including communism and the Russian revolution, Stalinism, and Maoism in this. But I don't know what else you might be including or excluding.lfen

Incognito And atheism/evolutionism has exactly what to do with weapon development and war.Please present the facts old man.Show how evolutionary theory helped to produce the knowledge for weaponry used in battle.

Incognito The sweet influences refers to the astrological belief that stars influenced the actions of men for which there is no evidence.To bind influences which do not exist to begin with is a moot point.As for Orion,to loose the bands is to infer that they were bound and as the chart showed they are no where near one another.They appear to be,especially the belt stars,but as it is with all the consellations,there is no physical correlation between them.Some are closer to earth than to one another.So the text is pretty much dead wrong.Easy to explain for people who had no real knowledge of the universe but were making guesses as best they could.

Let`s talk exponential growth. If we take it that the 3,000,000 survived to some extent in the Sinai, what numbers are we talking about after another 400 years? and the next 400? And the next? fixed a quote tag - The QueenThis message has been edited by AdminAsgara, 01-23-2005 10:06 AM

Ifen/Sidelined. This forum is not the place for atrocities disputes...But, please do a little research into "history." Evolution provided the catalyst for "Master Race" thinkers to murder millions (Nazis against non-Aryans, and Japanese in China). Not to mention the atrocities towards Aborigines in Australia ("specimen"-taking by SCIENTISTS) or the Apartheid regime in South Africa. Or the whole concept of "evolving out of Africa" and its racist connotations that Europeans are the last/most "evolved."Yes, there have always been racist people, but Evolution was their "golden ticket" to give scientific "credibility" to their actions/thoughts/deeds (in case you forgot, it was "SCIENTISTS" not Christians packing rocks into skulls to compare brain sizes/evolutionary growth)Atheism (under Communism) led to the mass killings of millions under Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot.The Crusades and the Inquisition (a couple thousand deaths over a few hundred years) can't even compare...Back to topic though - bring on the Biblical "errors" if indeed there are any...

two points.
1. social darwinism has nothing to do with darwinism, and has actually existed longer than darwin's theory of the origin of species. look up the dates.
2. the nazis were christians. so were the crusaders. evolution ≠ athiesm ≠ communism. try millions, buddy.