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Author Topic:   Biblical contradictions.
jennacreationist
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Message 261 of 329 (11977)
06-23-2002 2:12 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by Diamus
03-15-2002 1:59 PM


ok I read the whole thing and comming from the man's point of view that does not believe in the Bible as God's word, I don't beleive he read it in context. Just as so many people do today he took catch phrases and different ideas such as the slaying of a people and boxed God's dealings with a people who were obviously pagan had been given chances to change chose not to and were destroyed. God doesn't change he still punishes(wether we like it or not) those nations who choose other God's above Him.
Look at all the third world countries in dire poverty and are they Christian nations? Unfortunately for them no. He is a Father who forgives and yet He is just and swift in His actions who are against Him. Slavery wasn't the same as we think of today, there are so many things that words you have to go back into the original language, they weren't poorly treated they were likened to a housekeeper. We still have levels in our societies. God never acts like a little man but He does definitely let us know when something is displeasing and why and what the consequences are, he also is loving forgiving and all the lovey things we attribute to God and who is to question when He carries out punishments when clearly we all had our warnnings?
The Bible is not fallible and prophecy has proven it there are all sorts of prove it's, just look at Jerusalem today,
It's all so amazing !
God Bless~ jennacreationist

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jennacreationist
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Message 264 of 329 (12023)
06-24-2002 12:55 AM
Reply to: Message 261 by jennacreationist
06-23-2002 2:12 AM


Ok Mr Pambolli, point taken. I certainly didn't mean to sound so cold and condescending. After all I'm almost certain those are some of the reasons Christians today are not taken seriously. However, I still hold my position as far as Nations as a whole go. The Us. by far is the largest Christian Nation and the most prosperous. Also God has said not to be envious when the wicked appear to be prosperous, because basically they will get their's in the end. As far as being a fundamentalist those are harsh words. I am not a "Bible thumper" that judges people or threatens people with hell. I actually do prefer a loving approach to "win people over". I think my life is a ernest teastament to that.
I do not nor have I ever condoned slavery and I apologize profoundly if I came across that I do. Yes you are right I acted rather crassly especially considerring Mosses himself declared to let His people go.
The point I was trying to make is that the Bible is not fallible. Obviously the people that read it are, but what about all of the little nook and cranny cryptic prophesies that have already come to pass and the ones that are occurring right in front of our eyes such as Jerusalem's fight over land? God has stated that He has emotions and feelings, when He declared he was destroying the earth , he had already given us so many chances to leave our evil ways, he warnned us and did we listen no so He did what He promised, We gave Him profound grief, chose other gods even though He walked and talked with us. He's always done what he says he will do, and He also provided a Free gift for salvation . The Bible also states that unless you are a true beleiver you will not understand these mysteries written within....
God Bless,
Jennacreationist~

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jennacreationist
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Message 268 of 329 (12112)
06-24-2002 10:22 PM
Reply to: Message 265 by Mister Pamboli
06-24-2002 1:58 AM


Ok so let me ask you this...
What do you beleive and why?
Because the God that I know is a personal friend of mine that has performed miracles on my behalf quite regularly.
Cryptic yes, but not to those that are true beleivers. He even states that those that are unbeleiving cannot understand all the mysteries containned with in.
Would you not agree that America is better off monetarily , health wise in education etc. Yes look at some of those high dollar oil countries aren't very few of the actual people living there leadding any kind of a "wealthy" lifestyle.
Aren't most of the real inhabitors poorly treated, underfed, not politically represented etc. or am I gettting the wrong picture with the wrong info?
Do you not find it intriguing that God stated He would one day restore the Jewish people and their land right before the end times?
And isn't it intresting that most wars today do have a religious background to them?( not to mention that the Jewish people have a great prescence throughout history, most religions stem from them etc.)
That's not so cryptic that it's completely unseeable is it?
Again. I am a nice person I just have a firm foothold in My beleifs not because someone told me to but because I get the joy of experiancing my relationship with Him everyday~
I will check out the website thank you.
Jennacreationist

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jennacreationist
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Message 271 of 329 (12224)
06-26-2002 6:12 PM
Reply to: Message 270 by Mister Pamboli
06-25-2002 10:58 AM


Thank you for sharring your thoughts I appreciate it.
Not so oddly enough I agree with you on many levels.
Especially the parts about the things that hinder us in life(except for the one on marriage, because Christ is always using the bond of marriage likened to the bond and commitment He has with the church).
Maybe wealth isn't the right term I'm looking for in my example.
Blessed maybe...I'm obviously not getting my point across on that particular point. So I'll have to really think of how I can make it without sounding ridiculous. I know what I'm attempting to say...
I definitely agree with letting go of our lives for personal gain to help others and I am a practicer of that.
In fact I think that's why I am so stead fast in my beleifs where Christ is concernned, giving the ultimate sacrifice and using His life not to judge others but to love others.It's all about personal relationship.
I know I obtain to be more like Him even though I fall very short.
The reason I brought up the oil countries is because you said you didn't want to use them as an example because of fairness.
maybe I misinterpretted what you meant. Sorry if that was the case.
Which wars are you refferring to that don't have a religious conotation ?
thanks again,
Jennacreationist~

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jennacreationist
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Message 272 of 329 (12225)
06-26-2002 6:19 PM
Reply to: Message 269 by compmage
06-25-2002 1:47 AM


I disagree because I personally have experianced this.
I read the Bible like everyone else, thought it was long, borring, contradictory etc.
Until I became a true beleiver and it was as if a pair of glasses was put on my eyes.
What I read made sense litterally.
Not because anyone told me what it said, not because I bought a different Bible... sorry that I don't have any "scientific proof" but I can say I know I'm not the only one who has experieanced this.
Thanks~ jennacreationist

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