Biblical contradictions.

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Originally posted by Darwin Storm:
Another interesting aspect of the bible, to me, is that all the bibles (KJV, ect) are all translations from the original languages. Anyone here who know more than one languages will realize that direct translations rarely work, and are more often then not nonsensical, especially if the grammer systems are very different. Consequently, a translater will TRY and keep the original meaning while tranlating it, though something is always a bit lost. So before you could even talk about the inerrancy of the bible, you have to contend with the fact that it is an imperfect translation. Additionaly, language rapidly changes, so alot of contextual meaning must be changed to make sense in current context. Additionaly, the defintions and meaning of words changes over time. So, additionaly, you have to deal with a change of any given language over time. Seems that there is alot of room for error there even if the original was inerrant ( which it was not.) .

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This is all good and well. It does however have very little baring on the tread. Unless you can provide the original texts used in the Bible we are forced to use the version(s) that are most commonly accepted.Also translation might explain slight variations in meaning but could not explain a complete change in the order of events (creation according to Genesis).

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Originally posted by techristian:
Have you heard that cloning will produce an offspring that will age rapidly. It is believed that the clone will already have the age of the donor and tries to rapidly catch up to the age of the donor.

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Who believes this?

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All experiments including those recently done in Japan prove that cloning produced offspring with age. What is age, but a basic ENTROPY or BREAKING down of the DNA structure?

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DNA is only one of the many factors to do with age.

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I believe that God , in His infinite wisdom , knowing that we would attempt unethical cloning for body parts has already made it that our genetic material will age.

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Your belief is irrelavent. Without evidence this is nothing more that an assertion.------------------
I have conquered worlds...

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Originally posted by Percipient:
Seekers of ultimate truth rely upon religion, but each religion, indeed each sect of each religion, has its own ultimate truth. Relying solely on spiritual inputs will never result in any concensus.

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As far as I am concerned, this is one of the better arguments against the existence of god, or at least a god who is in any way interfering with our lives.If he/she/it existed and was guiding us in some way then it would be clear to all what the correct path was. Given the number of religions and sects, this is obviously not the case.There are a few other options but they entails acts on either my part or gods part that contradict the very nature of a supposed all powerful all loving god.------------------
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Originally posted by Jet:
But do they not all arrive at the same conclusion, that being, that the earth and its inhabitants were indeed created by a Creator? No one, not even the feeble minded, could read the Bible and come to any other logical conclusion than that the earth and its inhabitants were indeed created by a Creator and that neither the earth nor its' inhabitants are simply the result of chance plus time.

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Baseless assertion. I am someone and am certainly not retarded, yet I read the Bible and concluded that it was a fantasy book, and a bad one at that. Assertion refuted. That 'no one' will get you every time.

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Originally posted by Jet:
I guess it is a comfort to evolutionists that scientists never, ever disagree on any issues concerning the age of the earth, let alone the process of evolution and its inevitable outcome.
(Insert sarcastic laughter here!)

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It almost makes me wish I was an evolutionist so that I could share in the unanimity of thought that every evolutionist must enjoy.
(Insert uncontrollable sarcastic laughter here!)

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CHANCE PLUS TIME = EVOLUTION.....................MAN, WHAT A CONCEPT!
Where do I sign up?

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Please read up on evolution and save us the trouble of having to watch you build a strawman. Evolution does NOT equal change plus time.------------------
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Originally posted by jennacreationist:

Cryptic yes, but not to those that are true beleivers. He even states that those that are unbeleiving cannot understand all the mysteries containned with in.

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In psycology this would be called a self-reinforcing delusion.------------------
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