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Author Topic:   Why would the apostiles have lied?
Jeff
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Message 27 of 177 (19435)
10-09-2002 2:20 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by compmage
10-09-2002 12:34 PM


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Originally posted by Hanno:
Jesus, however, said he is the son of God, and performed the miricals to proof it in from of hundreds of witnesses. And not just any kind of mirical. He rose Lazarus from the grave when the body were already smelling bad. And He rose from the dead, and revealed Himself to a few hundred people. This is the eye witness accound of the appostles.
jeff:
Correction: No Jesus didn't say this...nor did he write this.
Odd how someone so important & all knowing never left a single document, penned by his own hand. We must rely on the hearsay of claims made by people who were TOLD that these events actually occurred.
The NT simply 'alleges' that the authors of the gospels 'claimed' that jesus said all this... did all that... yadda yadda ya...
That's 3rd degree hearsay.
You believe it because YOU CHOOSE to believe it.
Do you really require more ? Is THAT what the NT's message means to you ?? Believe in jesus - and then PROVE it all happened the way it is claimed ?
What about faith ?
Ya know - that intangible ability of humans to accept absolute absurdity as fact, despite a complete lack of corroborating evidence ?
You’re making xianity sound rather hollow.
If you want to believethen believe already and stop worrying whether the populace at large agrees with you. I want Santa Claus to be realbut I don’t post my dedication to this myth on message boards and challenge all to prove me wrong.
If I did do thatwould it be fair —or logical- of me to demand you disprove my dubious myth ?
Shouldn’t the burden of proof be upon me to demonstrate Santa Claus exists ?
You claim that the Quran is perverted, or distorted and erroneous and that eastern religions are merely philosophies. Have you studied them all with the same scrutiny that you devoted to the bible ?
...and you STILL prefer the bible ?
Perhaps you were raised to accept the bible without question and never really entertained the validity of the other religions.
OK — so once you’ve decided the bible is the one true book of god, then you have to decide which religion to pursue: Judaism or Xianity.
You chose Xianity — ( it’s actually Judaism 3.1; same core operating system with new higher logic, drivers and options )
Then you have to decide which ‘flavor’ of Xianity best fits your needs. Tough choice considering there are over 100 Xian denominations in the USA alone.
Are they all correct ? You certainly can’t get them to agree. Are they all wrong ?
That alternative has possibility
regards,
jeff
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