SIMPLE Astronomical Evidence Supports the Bible

ptolemy Perhaps you would care to make a prediction of an as yet unobserved phenomena of the sky that we can use to lend credibility to your statement here.I remember having a discussion with a person here named buzsaw{consequently banned} in which he seemed to be under the impression that common sense is enough to answer the strange phenomena that appear when a good question is asked.Do you have a similar view? If so,perhaps you would like to answer a question I posed to him?This message has been edited by sidelined, Tue, 2005-04-19 05:31 PM

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And since you know you cannot see yourself,
so well as by reflection, I, your glass,
will modestly discover to yourself,
that of yourself which you yet know not of

ptolemy Let us see if you can give the "real" answer to this scenario.I am on board a train travelling at a constant velocity along the tracks as we pass a road crossing.I open my window and drop a steel ball from the train.To my eyes the path taken by the ball is a straight line{neglecting air resisitance}from my carriage to the ground below.
A man in the adjacent grass bordering the tracks views my misdeed and,being keen eyed, follows the path of the ball as it drops and witnesses it following a curved path {a parabola}.
This is a great puzzlement since we both witness the same event and yet we come to see 2 different paths,one straight and one curved.Since the event had the same origin and end point in each persons view we are left with the great puzzle of judging which path is the "real" one.
Can you explain this?

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And since you know you cannot see yourself,
so well as by reflection, I, your glass,
will modestly discover to yourself,
that of yourself which you yet know not of

ptolemyI would like to see if this post could be attempted by yourself. Let us see if you can give the "real" answer to this scenario.I am on board a train travelling at a constant velocity along the tracks as we pass a road crossing.I open my window and drop a steel ball from the train.To my eyes the path taken by the ball is a straight line{neglecting air resisitance}from my carriage to the ground below.
A man in the adjacent grass bordering the tracks views my misdeed and,being keen eyed, follows the path of the ball as it drops and witnesses it following a curved path {a parabola}.
This is a great puzzlement since we both witness the same event and yet we come to see 2 different paths,one straight and one curved.Since the event had the same origin and end point in each persons view we are left with the great puzzle of judging which path is the "real" one.
Can you explain this?

ptolemy Actually either answer is valid in the frame of reference of the individual.The difficulty presented here is the designation of just what is meant by the term space.Since an arc{parabola} covers a greater distance between the same two points than a straight line what do you suppose has changed to allow the two valid observations to equally describe the same event?This message has been edited by sidelined, Wed, 2005-04-20 08:29 PM