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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
The scientific method looks for the best explanation rather than proof.
Given the rarity of fossils that preserve the soft tissues to anything like that degree, the shortage of genuine fossils of hominids that size and the poor provenance of the alleged find that it is a fraud is the best explanation we have. It certainly can't be considered as offering any real support to the claimed existence of giants.
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John Williams Member (Idle past 5020 days) Posts: 157 From: Oregon, US Joined: |
You will probably win the bet Charles! LoL
But seriously, I would be willing to spend my time to investigate it further. I understand that it probably seems pretty pointless and a waste of time trying to track down some old alleged bones, but I like to investigate this sort of thing in my free time. Anyways, I'll keep you guys heads up. By the way I agree with you Paul, that the 12-foot fossil mummy man screams of hoax.
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CK Member (Idle past 4149 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
oh sure - it's an interesting story, but I've been a "skeptic" for many years, I've never see a claim yet that does not involve some slight of hand.
Look at my blood of jesus thread - a 100% fraud.
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John Williams Member (Idle past 5020 days) Posts: 157 From: Oregon, US Joined: |
I can't keep a strait face when I think of that blood of Jesus claim.
What was Wyatt thinking?
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CK Member (Idle past 4149 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
we are getting off-topic now, but I'd think that it was all done because of mental illness rather than any bad intent.
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contracycle Inactive Member |
quote: Just to muddy the water, I have found an alternate provenance of this figure: Image Gallery | Unexplained Mysteries
quote: Note the visual similarity to the Cardiff giant:Image Gallery | Unexplained Mysteries Not that any of this is sourced, of course
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CK Member (Idle past 4149 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
I always think of this when I see Ron's work:
http://www.stuffucanuse.com/...on_landings/moon_landings.htm
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John Williams Member (Idle past 5020 days) Posts: 157 From: Oregon, US Joined: |
Thanks for the info. I think this can prettymuch convince me that the fossil giant is a hoax just like the Cardiff. Back in th 19th century they got big bucks for circus sideshow props like these.
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John Williams Member (Idle past 5020 days) Posts: 157 From: Oregon, US Joined: |
LoL...
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Nighttrain Member (Idle past 4015 days) Posts: 1512 From: brisbane,australia Joined: |
A lot of these tales seem to recycle, so if we see 'More Unsolved Mysteries' or the ilk appearing, we are sure to find old favourites. I did a quick Google on gigantism (giantism) and much seems to remain a mystery. However, it doesn`t appear to be common or genetic, so we wouldn`t expect to find a tribe of giants. Now, little people are another story. :-P
Sorry, forgot a site http://www.mdtext.com/...trics/pediatrics1b/pediatrics1b.htm This message has been edited by Nighttrain, 08-18-2004 11:47 PM
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John Williams Member (Idle past 5020 days) Posts: 157 From: Oregon, US Joined: |
No, but we do see "tribes" of exceptionally tall people in parts of Africa and even South America.
I don't know of any genetic predisposition to gigantism, but actual families and tribes of individuals who pass on genes of tall stature is a common occurence. Again, look at some of the tribes in Africa where individuals 7-feet and even taller are a common occurance. These are individuals like the 7'7" NBA player Manute Bol, who was a meber of the Dinka tribe in southern Sudan. His father was 6ft7, and his grandfather was 7ft1. Therefore, I wouldn't say it is a far stretch to assume that tribes and family members of "giants" do exist, and existed in the past. (giants, being individuals within 2-3 metres)
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CK Member (Idle past 4149 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
yes but you would not have to go much further to hit the square cubed law.
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John Williams Member (Idle past 5020 days) Posts: 157 From: Oregon, US Joined: |
Exactly.
For example, it would be highly doubtful a perfectly proportioned human 12 feet tall could ever exist. That would be in defiance of the cube law, or ~8 times the wieght of a human with the same body frame. Some one that enormous would have their bones break under each step, and their heart couldn't pump blood efficiently. It is within speculation that a human that tall might have existed if he were very light in weight compared to his height. But the tallest man that has been reliably measured within the last hundred years, was the pre-acromegalic giant Robert wadlow of Alton, Ill who was measured on June 27, 1940 by Dr. C. M. Charles, Associate Professor of Anatomy at Washington University School of Medicine, in St. Louis, and was found to be 8 foot 11 and 1/10 inches tall, and he weighed 439 lbs at the time.
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John Williams Member (Idle past 5020 days) Posts: 157 From: Oregon, US Joined: |
Many of you may have already heard about a story circulating the internet about a giant human skeleton discovered in Saudi Arabia by oil workers. That story was published by "The New Nation" http://nation.ittefaq.com/artman/exec/view.cgi/10/8519
It turns out the picture attached to the story was a fake from a photoshop contest at worth1000.com
It clearly shows signs of photoshop manipulation. However, I did some investigation recently, and it seems that the story about a discovery in Saudi Arabia of a giant human skeleton may have some truth behind it.
This image is allegedly of an actual giant human skeleton that was found by Saudi ARAMCO oil workers in the summer of 2000. Read the article at: http://objective.jesussave.us/creationnews.html I wanted to know everyones opinion about this photograph?I certainly am skeptical about it. But it does seems quite real looking at first glance. I have studied it for a couple hours using negatives to see if there is any sign of photoshop manipulation and I haven't really seen any. I know that this photo is not in any way solid evidence for human giants, but I just wanted to share it with you so I could hear your opinions about it. By the way, I calculated that the skeleton would have to be of an individual atleast 11-12 feet tall when living. {Fixed UBB img code - Adminnemooseus} This message has been edited by Adminnemooseus, 09-13-2004 11:35 AM Corpus Maritanius 1964 -
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John Williams Member (Idle past 5020 days) Posts: 157 From: Oregon, US Joined: |
The jaw of the skull seems to have fallen down flat against the spine, which is consistent with rigor mortis.
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