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Author Topic:   Secularly Verifiable Evidence for Biblical Inerrancy
CK
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Message 31 of 99 (152231)
10-23-2004 10:10 AM
Reply to: Message 30 by SirPimpsalot
10-23-2004 10:09 AM


and the link to an example of this is?

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SirPimpsalot 
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Message 32 of 99 (152232)
10-23-2004 10:14 AM
Reply to: Message 26 by CK
10-23-2004 9:26 AM


I'm sorry to say this sirpimpalot, but your debating style is becoming pretty clear, you just throw random things into the conversation once your previous points have been discredited.
I'm not attempting to change the subject.......I'm just adding additional info which I would have included in the first post had I remembered. I'll respond to the people who "discredited" my points in time, but I don't have all day to sit in here and post, ya know?
Now unless I am mistaken, Stephen Baxter is a Science-fiction writer. Before we even consider the ramifications of this - can you provide any proof this is true from a science-FACT book?
Stephen Baxter is an accomplised scientist, who just happens to write sci-fi.........his exclusive genre is hard sci-fi, and hard sci-fi is based exclusively or almost exclusively on hard science.
If you read it in a Stephen Baxter book, it's probably at least theoretically possible.

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SirPimpsalot 
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Message 33 of 99 (152233)
10-23-2004 10:17 AM
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10-23-2004 10:09 AM


Charles, have you seriously never heard of this proceedure? It's been around for a few years now......they use it as a cure for severe epilepsy.

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CK
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Message 34 of 99 (152234)
10-23-2004 10:18 AM
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10-23-2004 10:14 AM


That's a dodge - provide some evidence from a science fact book.
quote:
Stephen Baxter is an accomplised scientist
I am familar with the work of Mr.Baxter, you clearly aren't. On what basic would you call him an accomplised scientist?

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CK
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Message 35 of 99 (152235)
10-23-2004 10:20 AM
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10-23-2004 10:17 AM


I am well aware of the procedure - it is called a Functional Hemispherectomy. Let's discuss it after you a) provide evidence that the human mind can contain 1000 years of memories and b) Provide evidence that Stephen Baxter is an accomplished scientist.
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SirPimpsalot 
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Message 36 of 99 (152236)
10-23-2004 10:20 AM
Reply to: Message 25 by fnord
10-23-2004 8:50 AM


Probably, but the Bible isn't supposed to have been written by regular Joe's, but by God-inspired people. Seems to me like God doesn't know elementary math.
You do realize that ancient Hebrew didn't even have quotation marks, don't you? These weren't scientists........they were holy men, to whom "sphere" and "circle" were synonyms.

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AdminJar
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Message 37 of 99 (152237)
10-23-2004 10:23 AM
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10-23-2004 10:09 AM


There have been instances in which over half of a person's brain has been removed and they retained full memory and mental capacity........and, given enough time, it's believed they can regain all motor function as well, and be a perfectly normal person with only half a brain.
Okay, you have finally hit something that you need to support. Period.
Please post the scientific evidence for this assertion. Anecdotal accounts from popular magazines will not be sufficient.
In particular, differentiate and explain how someone regains functionality when certain critical areas of the brain that occur in only one place are removed.
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How pierceful grows the hazy yon! How myrtle petaled thou! For spring hath sprung the cyclotron How high browse thou, brown cow? -- Churchy LaFemme, 1950

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SirPimpsalot 
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Message 38 of 99 (152238)
10-23-2004 10:25 AM
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10-23-2004 10:20 AM


Knight, I can't find my copy of Manifold Time, but at least the latter is present there..........he use to work for NASA, if I'm not mistaken, and has multiple degrees.
Also present in Manifold Time (where I got the 1000 year thing from) is a list of citations where all of the science that various ideas in the book are based off of can be found.......

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SirPimpsalot 
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Message 39 of 99 (152239)
10-23-2004 10:26 AM
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10-23-2004 10:23 AM


No need, Admin, as Charles says he's familiar with the proceedure.........I'm suprised you aren't.

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CK
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Message 40 of 99 (152240)
10-23-2004 10:29 AM
Reply to: Message 38 by SirPimpsalot
10-23-2004 10:25 AM


quote:
he use to work for NASA, if I'm not mistaken,
You are - he applied to be an civilan astronaut and was turned down.
quote:
has multiple degrees.
He has two - one in Maths and one in Engineering. That still does not answer my question - Where is your evidence he is an accomplished scientist?
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CK
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Message 41 of 99 (152241)
10-23-2004 10:30 AM
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10-23-2004 10:26 AM


This is the second time that you have tried this.
I am familar with the procedure - I do not support your claim of the outcome of the procedure.

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SirPimpsalot 
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Message 42 of 99 (152242)
10-23-2004 10:31 AM
Reply to: Message 24 by sidelined
10-23-2004 8:44 AM


Re: The Science of the Bible
In physics light refers to any wavelength of the electromagnetic spectrum. As applying the normal idea of light to mean that part of the EM spectrum that we can percieve then light was not immediately viewable in the initial stages of the universe but some 400,000 years after the big bang.
I don't see how this detracts from my argument.....

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SirPimpsalot 
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Message 43 of 99 (152243)
10-23-2004 10:36 AM
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10-23-2004 10:29 AM


He has two - one in Maths and one in Engineering. That still does not answer my question - Where is your evidence he is an accomplished scientist?
If you have scientific degrees, you're a scientist, in my book.

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SirPimpsalot 
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Message 44 of 99 (152244)
10-23-2004 10:38 AM
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10-23-2004 10:30 AM


I am familar with the procedure - I do not support your claim of the outcome of the procedure.
Well, what DO you claim about the proceedure? That they save people from epilepsy by turning them into vegetables?
Where exactly is your disagreement?

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AdminJar
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Message 45 of 99 (152246)
10-23-2004 10:42 AM
Reply to: Message 39 by SirPimpsalot
10-23-2004 10:26 AM


Oh, but there is.
I don't believe you really understand the issue.
Functional hemispherectomy does NOT entail removing half the brain.
Looking at your posts I see a constant stream of generalities and exaggeration.
FH is NOT removing half a brain.
A circle is NOT a sphere.
If such beliefs are part of your theology, then fine. But in this thread we are talking about secular varifiable evidence.
So far your examples have been sorely lacking.
It's time to actually step up and support at least one of them.

How pierceful grows the hazy yon! How myrtle petaled thou! For spring hath sprung the cyclotron How high browse thou, brown cow? -- Churchy LaFemme, 1950

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