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Topic: Re: Substantiating The Validity Of Bible Prophecy
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jar
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Re: Not the exact time, but the "season"
Saul was a fanatic before the trip. Paul was a fanatic after the trip.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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Buzsaw
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Message 32 of 119 (342534)
08-22-2006 9:56 PM
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Reply to: Message 3 by anglagard
08-22-2006 2:43 AM
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Re: The Prophecy of Uniformitarianism?
anglagard writes: As to the first, I must agree, solar and lunar eclipses have happened in the past, and I prophicize, will happen in the future. Isn't this a bit too uniformitarian for a fundamentalist? This is a global cloudiness which will result from global warming, drout and evaporation. Jesus comes with clouds, i.e. a very cloudy global atmosphere. Both OT and NT predict this.
anglagard writes: As to the second, much evaporation at one spot will, I predict, lead to much precipitation in another. LOL on the precipitation. It will become scarce and likely ever increasing in violent destructive ways. One hundred lb hail stones are predicted. I believe that reference is toward the end of Rev 16.
anglagard writes: The thing that most puzzles me is why you and those of your ilk have such a red-hot passion for calamity. My passion is with a book which has the complete history of the world from the begining of IDist activity in/on it to the end of it before it burns up after the messianic millenium. It's like reading the back of the book and knowing how it all plays out. That amazing and wonderful book has delightfully enlightened me with all the wisdom and understanding I have that amounts to anything really worthwhile and has made every aspect of life hum nicely these 71 years of my life, 61 of them as a Christian. To me it's like man's operator's manual from the maker of man to run mankind's life and for mankind to troubleshoot any problems that can possibly arise. 
anglagard writes: Of course, maybe the world ended in 1843 like the 7th day people said (originally) and us non-7ths are just too stupid to realize it. LOL. It couldn't have happened then. Israel was not yet regathered to become a nation, a vital must before end time begins. The good folks didn't do their homework.
BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28
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Buzsaw
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Message 33 of 119 (342538)
08-22-2006 10:06 PM
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Reply to: Message 6 by ikabod
08-22-2006 3:48 AM
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ikabod writes: i think this is very very unlikley ...given the state of russia ..its internal decay both militry and civilian ... if you read the info coming out its clear russia is in a long transistional phase , colapse is the more likely prospect .. but us / western money will prop it up ... . as for the ME and NA if you look at many of the nations they are going to fight each other as much as the west , and they are very dependant on the west for arms and technology . look at the poor showing of the Iraq army in a convensonal combat situation . Don't underestimate Russia. They produce a lot of oil. They're more with Islamic nations than with the West and as Islam rises in power, cooperation of the two powers will increase.
ikabod writes: a better perdiction would be a decline in the UN 's status .. it has failed so many times .. more usa / euro lead actions .. and china lead .. acting alone is going to become comman The UN favors Islamic nations and will rise in influence as does Islam. This trend will increase.
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Buzsaw
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Message 34 of 119 (342543)
08-22-2006 10:23 PM
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Reply to: Message 7 by CK
08-22-2006 6:13 AM
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CK writes: Cuba? Why would they nuke the Vatican? What other communist nature could you mean? There's North Korea and China.
CK writes: China is like the old USSR in that it's would be unable to sustain a supply chain on such an expedition beyond a couple of months (if even that long - during the cold war, the projections for the USSR was that the supply chain would break down within six weeks of the start of a conventional war). It's a totally unlikely scenario. China is a sleeping giant militarily. It's also nuclear ambitious.
CK writes: What makes you think that Russia is going to be a "predominant world influence"? They won't be the predominant world influence. Global Islam, cooperating with Russia will likely be the key players in a global confederacy/power somewhat like the US and Britian are presently. As per Daniel 7, Revelation 13 and Rev 17 there will be a global confederacy/beast of ten powers, either as nations or influencial men who rule as kings according to Rev 17. It's possible that the globe will be divided into 10 regions but that is unclear.
BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28
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anglagard
Member (Idle past 862 days) Posts: 2339 From: Socorro, New Mexico USA Joined: 03-18-2006
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Message 35 of 119 (342544)
08-22-2006 10:24 PM
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Reply to: Message 33 by Buzsaw
08-22-2006 10:06 PM
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Russia = Islam?
Don't underestimate Russia. They produce a lot of oil. They're more with Islamic nations than with the West and as Islam rises in power, cooperation of the two powers will increase. Like in Chechnya?
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Buzsaw
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Message 36 of 119 (342550)
08-22-2006 10:32 PM
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Reply to: Message 8 by CK
08-22-2006 7:24 AM
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Re: Further about Vatican city
So I should cancel the trip I planned to vatican city to buy some goats and sheep? Can you recommend somewhere else to pick up some myrrh and frankincense? Try Israel. It should be relatively safe for awhile. If Vatican City get's hit, the timeframe is unclear. It may be awhile yet. I see nothing specific on timing of this probability.
BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28
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Buzsaw
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Message 37 of 119 (342553)
08-22-2006 10:40 PM
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Reply to: Message 9 by RickJB
08-22-2006 7:39 AM
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Re: Amazing Powers
Rick writes: So with your amazing powers of prediction can you tell us exactly when the "endtimes" will come? I have no amazing powers. Since a kid I've been into an amazing and powerful world's overall best seller of all time which has all the wisdom and knowledge anyone needs for both the here and now as well as the afterlife. Edited by Buzsaw, : Fix mistake
BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28
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Buzsaw
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Message 38 of 119 (342556)
08-22-2006 10:48 PM
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Reply to: Message 10 by jar
08-22-2006 7:46 AM
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Re: Further about Vatican city
Neither the city of Rome nor the US fits the bill if you carefully itemize all the information in these two chapters in light of history.
BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28
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Buzsaw
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Message 39 of 119 (342558)
08-22-2006 10:52 PM
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Reply to: Message 11 by ramoss
08-22-2006 9:46 AM
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Re: Bible Codes
I don't ascribe to the Bible Codes. Why mess with them when we have the the written prophecies, et al. They're not needed and likely usless, though admittedly, I've read little on them.
BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28
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jar
Member (Idle past 419 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 40 of 119 (342559)
08-22-2006 10:54 PM
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Reply to: Message 38 by Buzsaw
08-22-2006 10:48 PM
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Re: Further about Vatican city
Sure they do Buz. Would you like to step through it line by line? Remember, John was writing about a period over 1800 years ago. We know that it is all long in the past and Rome was what he knew about, most likely the Rome of Nero. But if you really want to move it into the future, the US is far more likely what is being depicted than Russia, in particular it is likely talking about California.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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Buzsaw
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Message 41 of 119 (342561)
08-22-2006 11:02 PM
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Reply to: Message 12 by Brian
08-22-2006 10:04 AM
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Brian writes: I don't think there is any pastime as worthless as Bible prophecy, it is just ludicrous because anyone can essentially make any event fit something in the Bible. There's also all this crap about symollism, and that many biblical verses don't actually mean what they say. 1. I haven't seen anything more fulfilling (pardon the pun) than the prophecies. 2. Nobody can essentially make any sense in the prophecies going at it carelessly in a liberal manner without prayer, the Holy Spirit and doing lots of homework comparing scripture with scripture.
BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28
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Buzsaw
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Message 42 of 119 (342563)
08-22-2006 11:08 PM
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Reply to: Message 40 by jar
08-22-2006 10:54 PM
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Re: Further about Vatican city
I did a thread on it sometime in former years if you can find it. It's definitely too comprehensive to do on this thread and I'm too busy for it at this time to do the whole thing. If you wish to specify something perhaps we can discuss briefly some more significant items regarding it. Sometime in the future perhaps I can do a thread on it.
BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28
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jar
Member (Idle past 419 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 43 of 119 (342568)
08-22-2006 11:13 PM
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Reply to: Message 42 by Buzsaw
08-22-2006 11:08 PM
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Re: Further about Vatican city
Only when you are ready Buz. I see nothing in Revelations that points to anything beyond 100AD or so, so it is not a biggie. Ancient history as far as I'm concerned. What's more, the Gospel of John seems to invalidate anything in the Revelations of John so it's doubly moot, completely irrelevant.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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Buzsaw
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Message 44 of 119 (342575)
08-22-2006 11:25 PM
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Reply to: Message 16 by Legend
08-22-2006 3:54 PM
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Re: when will we know ?
Legend writes: Hi Buzz, have you got any kind of timescales for these prophecies ? Change escalates ever more frequently so it's hard to say. There's important things yet to emerge such as the full implementation of moneyless global monetary completion as prophesied in Revelation 13, revealing of the antichrist, shift in world powers, more significant global drout and warming, et al. At the pace change happens these days much can happen in ten or 20 years. I'm thinking 30 or 40 years at the most will wrap it up for this age as things are going if not much sooner.
BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28
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Buzsaw
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UN = Useless Nuisance now, but when world power and influence shifts, imo, you'll see it's ifluence grow as cooperation of the world powers, pet powers of the UN strengthen it.
BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28
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