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Author Topic:   Did the sky really go dark as biblical inerrantists insist?
ramoss
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Message 46 of 113 (340929)
08-17-2006 9:11 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by Brian
08-17-2006 11:57 AM


Re: synoptics do mention it
You also have to consider the fact that Matthew's Gospel (in fact all of the Gosepls) is an anonymous work, so we don;t know if it was written by the apostle or not.
Another point is that the geography in the Gospel of Mark is incorrect, which indicates that the author of the Gospel of Mark did not know Jerusalum and the surrounding areas. This would rule out his being one of the apostles.

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ramoss
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Message 53 of 113 (341011)
08-18-2006 7:18 AM
Reply to: Message 38 by Hyroglyphx
08-17-2006 6:22 PM


Re: Misinterpretations
Could you give me the context in which this claim is written. THe paragraph before and after?? A lot of times people take words out of context to make a point that is not true (not always intentionally)> This is known as 'quote mining'.
Unfortunately, you can't. There are not extant works of Thallus. You don't know what Thallus really said, you only know what Africanus said Thallus said, and Africanus had a political point to make.

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Message 55 of 113 (341314)
08-19-2006 7:06 AM
Reply to: Message 54 by Kapyong
08-18-2006 7:08 PM


Yet, that does not give us the works of Thallus.. just a biased reference to them.

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Message 59 of 113 (342926)
08-24-2006 8:38 AM
Reply to: Message 58 by Kapyong
08-24-2006 12:27 AM


That was my point.
You can't say 'thallus said' xxx. You can only say that 'Africanus claimed that thallus said'. Since , from a historical point of view, an eclipse did not happen during the time that Africanus said thallus said happen, we can be sure that Africanus was wrong about his interpretation of Thallus.

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Message 63 of 113 (343145)
08-24-2006 9:06 PM
Reply to: Message 62 by Kapyong
08-24-2006 9:02 PM


For that matter, we don't know if the cruxifiction took place, except as a generic event that many jews suffered.

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