Scientific Facts Found in The Bible!

Did you know that you can tell if a house has leprosy by looking for reddish or greenish strakes in the plaster? (Whatever strakes are....) And that you can cure leprosy in people by killing pigeons over a bowl of water?Science is still unaware of both of those!! Amazing!!

My bathroom has leprosy. But I killed a pidgeon over the toilet bowl. This better work, Coragyps!

Dan, if you had any idea, tyhe Bible wasnt written by one person, it was written by lots of people, from different countries, and tongues at that. I knew that there would be debate on this forum, but i didnt realize there would be such ignorance and unkindness. Are there ANY Bible Believers out there? Anyone who actually KNOWS the truth. Whether you believe it or not, you will face God on judgement day, and you will atone for your sins in Hell, or be converted here on Earth, and get your eternal paradise. Now that was blunt, and I said it that way, because all you so-called 'intelectuals' are to blind to see the truth! Signs of Creation is all around us, take the human body for instance. The chances of our body coming into form the way it did is absurd. Above all that it takes 100% COMPLETE knowledge to claim that ther eis no God. Its like saying there is no gold in China. To make that statement true, you would have to check under EVER rock, every china boys mouth for a gold filling, I mean EVERYWHERE, and all I have to do is see one gold filling, and I know there is gold in china. Humanity probably knows .0001% of what there is to know about the universe. but pretend you knew 1%, and in all that other 99% you havent discovered, could u say that there is evidence for Gods existence? If you are a reasonable person, youll have to say yes. So by that statement you are not an atheist, you are agnostic. And with all due respect, the word agnostic comes from the latin word ignoramus, which means ignorant. I stand by my beliefs, if you cannot see creation, you are an ignorant fool.

You even manage to contradict yourself here. Using your 'gold analogy' how do you know that mankind probably knows .0001% of what there is to know in the universe if you do not know everything there is to know in the universe? You would have to know everything in order to get the statistic!Brian.

Notice I said PROBABLY. It is an estimate. we could know .000000000000000000000000000000001.[This message has been edited by DavidPryor, 11-13-2003]

How can you even say 'probably'? Probably we know 99% for all you know. Your argument is flawed, everything you have posted here tonight has been flawed and unsupported. You really need to research things more and become a bit more educated on these matters before you post childish claims.Everything you have posted is basic creationist garbage which has been refuted so many times that it isnt funny anymore.Stay away from Hovind type websites, and maybe enrol at a college and educate yourself. All you are doing is reinforcing some people's beliefs that creationists are halfwits.Brian.

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Whether you believe it or not, you will face God on judgement day, and you will atone for your sins in Hell, or be converted here on Earth, and get your eternal paradise.

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This is not a logical argument. If you wish to convince anyone of anything you need to back up your assertians, either with factual evidence or clear logical reasoning. (By the way, we get to atone for our sins in Hell? I thought Hell was forever.)

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The chances of our body coming into form the way it did is absurd.

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Actually, to anyone who knows anything about biological evolution it's pretty straight forward.

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could u say that there is evidence for Gods existence?

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There is no evidence that God exists. If you would like to supply the evidence, we would be glad to listen. Please do not submit a book of ancient fables, nor simple point to the universe, the existence of which is not in doubt. Please supply some evidence that shows that God exists.

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if you cannot see creation, you are an ignorant fool.

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It's pretty sad, pathetic even, that so many Christians have to resort to such vulgar name-calling.

You want proof for God. Well, the chair u are sitting on is proof for God. Everything is proof for God. If you see a building while ur driving, do you say to urself, "that building came up by itself, nothing created it". That is foolish, you see a creation, there had to be a creator. You see a painting, you know there was a painter. The same with earth, I see earth and I know there was a creator. Would you like to know something interesting? Evolution is a religion:
religion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (r-ljn)
n.
A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.And dont say you dont devote yourself to it, cause if that is ur answer....Why are you here?

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If you see a building while ur driving, do you say to urself, "that building came up by itself, nothing created it". That is foolish, you see a creation, there had to be a creator. You see a painting, you know there was a painter. The same with earth, I see earth and I know there was a creator.

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This is called the fallacy of weak analogy. You are trying to draw a connection between things that are not necessarily analogous.If I see a building, I assume that the building was build by people. True - I have seen with my own eyes people building a building. I see a painting, I assume that it was painted by a person because I have seen people painting. But I have never seen anyone create an earth, so I have no reason to believe that the earth was created by someone. On the other hand, we look into the sky with telescopes. We see large clouds of gas and dust. We see, within these clouds of gas, stars with certain characteristics. We know, from the laws of physics, that clouds of gas collapse. We know, from the laws of physics, that these collapsed clouds will begin to glow from thermonuclear fusion, becoming stars. We know, from the laws of physics, what the characteristics of young stars will be - and they are like the stars we see in the dust clouds. We also know, from the laws of physics, that the clouds, as they collapse into stars, will also form planets about the stars. So, I have never seen an intelligent creator make an earth. But we know, from the laws of physics, that it is possible for collapsing gas clouds to form stars and planets. And we know, from the laws of physics, what the characteristics of these gas clouds would be, what the characteritics of young stars would be, and sure enough, we see these characteristics in gas clouds and stars with out telescopes. So I have a naturalistic explanation for the formation of the earth that works.I will ask you again: what evidence for God do you have that cannot be explained through naturalistic means?[This message has been edited by Chiroptera, 11-13-2003]

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Originally posted by DavidPryor

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Dan, if you had any idea, tyhe Bible wasnt written by one person, it was written by lots of people, from different countries, and tongues at that. I knew that there would be debate on this forum, but i didnt realize there would be such ignorance and unkindness.

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Be careful David, it is already obvious that you are a novice in biblical studies. I assure you that Dan and many others on this forum will demonstrate all the knowledge and understanding you can handle. As to kindness, you will likely reap what you sow.I, for one, will be happy to discuss with you any part of the bible you wish to discuss and at any depth to which you wish to discuss it.

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. . . you are agnostic. And with all due respect, the word agnostic comes from the latin word ignoramus, which means ignorant.

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Nonsense. Agnostic stems from the Greek a + gnostos (known), from gignoskein (to know) - Late Latin = a + gnosticus - a (without) + gnostic (knowledge) used in the sense that any ultimate reality is unknown and probably unknowable; (in the practical and modern sense) one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or non-existence of a God or gods. [Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, tenth ed.]Ignoramus is an entirely different word used to refer to an ignorant lawyer in a 1625 a.d. George Ruggles play titled "Ignoramus". The literal Latin "we are ignorant of" is used to refer to an utterly ignorant person; i.e. a dunce. [ibid. pg. 576]David, you will not be thought wise by saying, "I am wise". You must actually demonstrate your wisdom and knowledge. Until you have shown that you are capable of doing this, it might be prudent to defer any outbursts regarding other people's "ignorance", as that sort of thing has a way of flying back into your own face.Namaste'Amlodhi

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Dan, if you had any idea, tyhe Bible wasnt written by one person, it was written by lots of people, from different countries, and tongues at that.

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I'm aware of that, yes. But how do you know which person's writing are supposed to be read as metaphor and which are supposed to be fact? Did the bible come with a manual or something?For instance, in Leviticus, bats are specifically referred to as a type of bird. Was this being poetic?Is it only being poetic when you don't agree with it?

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I knew that there would be debate on this forum, but i didnt realize there would be such ignorance and unkindness.

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You might not want to toss around the word "ignorance" when you're citing Kent Hovnid as an authority. Opens all sorts of nasty doors.

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Anyone who actually KNOWS the truth.

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I know that bats aren't birds, if that's what you're asking.

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Whether you believe it or not, you will face God on judgement day, and you will atone for your sins in Hell, or be converted here on Earth, and get your eternal paradise. Now that was blunt, and I said it that way, because all you so-called 'intelectuals' are to blind to see the truth!

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Probably because the truth, as it is defined here, requires shutting down any capacity for reasoning.

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Signs of Creation is all around us, take the human body for instance. The chances of our body coming into form the way it did is absurd.

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Oh, well... you said it.Must be true, then.

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Above all that it takes 100% COMPLETE knowledge to claim that ther eis no God. Its like saying there is no gold in China. To make that statement true, you would have to check under EVER rock, every china boys mouth for a gold filling, I mean EVERYWHERE, and all I have to do is see one gold filling, and I know there is gold in china.

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I hope you don't go around claiming that there isn't an invisible, intangible robot mongoose lodged in your rectum. You'd need 100% COMPLETE knowledge to say it wasn't true.

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Humanity probably knows .0001% of what there is to know about the universe. but pretend you knew 1%, and in all that other 99% you havent discovered, could u say that there is evidence for Gods existence? If you are a reasonable person, youll have to say yes. So by that statement you are not an atheist, you are agnostic.

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There's another thread already devoted to atheist/agnostic east coast/west coast elsewhere on the forum. Go read.

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And with all due respect, the word agnostic comes from the latin word ignoramus, which means ignorant.

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I hope you caught the irony here. You reveal your ignorance regarding the roots of words by accusing others of being ignorant.I love when karma comes wrapped in a neat little package like that.

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I stand by my beliefs

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Go for it. Nobody asked you to do otherwise.As I recall, you came onto this forum and started trying to convince others of your beliefs. You were the one asking people to change.

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if you cannot see creation, you are an ignorant fool.

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If you cannot see that the invisible, intangible robot mongoose has made its way to your small intestine by now, you are an ignorant fool.Or, in other words, "nuh-uh" to your "yuh-huh".

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I assure you that Dan and many others on this forum will demonstrate all the knowledge and understanding you can handle.

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Time to educate... WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE.

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And with all due respect, the word agnostic comes from the latin word ignoramus, which means ignorant. I stand by my beliefs, if you cannot see creation, you are an ignorant fool.

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I can't believe I am seeing this gem again. I could have sworn the other poster made it up. Where is this ridiculous statement coming from?edited to add: Googling led me to many many many church sites stating that same thing. One ignoramus probably posted it on his site and everyone else is picking it up. Talk about looking the fools![This message has been edited by roxrkool, 11-14-2003]

I guess you better convert then. Wouldn't want to be worshipping the wrong god on judgement day, would we?------------------
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