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Author Topic:   The Bible 2003 Edition by God et al.
Brian
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Message 2 of 64 (32754)
02-20-2003 3:50 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by David unfamous
02-19-2003 5:40 AM


Hi David,
I agree wholeheartedly with what you say.
The Bible we have was written primarily for relatviely ignorant peasants and Jesus apparently used parables because they were tailored for the intelligence level of his audience.
The Bible, as we have it today, is accessible to far more people that it ever has been before, subsequently it has lost a lot of its mystique. Modern historians and archaeologists have really disproved most of the 'historical events' in the Old Testament. I personally do not study the New Testament very much as I find it particularly boring, I mean how can you compare Jesus' tantrum in the Temple to Samson and his rampage with the jawbone.
Anyway, I agree, the bible was written at specific times for specific audiences and for specific reasons, maybe it is time that God brought out a new edition, one with far fewer errors and more coherent.
Maybe He could produce some international editions, but that would take away some inerrantist's best apologetic, 'yes that looks like a mistake but is actually a mistranslation.'
Maybe we could plagarise the Bible and produce our own updated version, we could have our own 'prophecies' as well, all we have to say is that the Holy Spirit guided us. The fact that Josh MacDowell can sell millions of books proves there's enough gullible people out for us to make a fortune and retire.
The only problem I can see is that God likes to keep His followers ignorant of the true reality that surrounds them, why else would he make a 6000 year old universe look so much older?
Best Wishes
Brian.
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Remembering events that never happened is a dangerous thing!

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Brian
Member (Idle past 4959 days)
Posts: 4659
From: Scotland
Joined: 10-22-2002


Message 7 of 64 (33084)
02-24-2003 4:42 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by drummachine
02-23-2003 9:33 PM


'Where are the errors in the bible?'
On the pages.
Where is the evidence of the earth looking older?
All around you.
You believe the bible is not for today, how?
How? I think you might mean WHY?
It was for ignorant peasant people? Please explain.
It is full of ignorant information, hence written for ignorant people.
Why was Jesus angry in the temple?
Because people were changing money and conducting business in his father's house, haven't you read the Bible? Wait a minute wasn't the Temple actually Jesus' house. Come to think of it, isn't Jesus his own father and also his own son? But seriously, what evidence do you have that this actually happened?
'Sure there are people that have made new translations(politically correct or whatever).'
Yes, usually these are revised editions when, for example, new archaeological discoveries disprove something that the Bible promotes.
'There are still correct translations.'
Are there; how do you know this; what are they translated from?
Drummachine,
I have read some of your posts and although I am sure that you mean well, you really have a very poor working knowledge of science and theology. You should research a little better before you make wild claims about your faith.
My advice is to take an 'introduction to the Bible' course at a local college and learn about your faith and scriptures.
I could have answered your questions more fully but I am bored senseless refuting tired old childish arguments.
What makes you think that your FAITH is a superior way to live and is more moralistic than anyone else's. Yet you forget that your faith promotes racism, religious bigotry and homophobia. Your God murdered countless women and children in the Old Testament, and you and your kind think this is fine because the victims had a different lifestyle to what you think is the ideal.
Although I wasn't drug addict I had a pretty rough time growing up, I was in trouble with the police a few times but I won't bore you with the details. I turned my life around by myself, so you can see that Jesus isn't the only 'salvic' path
You come here after having what COULD HAVE been psychotic episode in which you believe you met Jesus and it saved you from drugs and wanting to kill your father. I am really glad you are 'clean' now, but there's no need for you go into overkill on the Jesus trip.
The thing is, you have FAITH in Jesus as your Lord and Saviour, it is a faith, yet you need confirmation of his claims from science and a silly little collection of writings in a Book.
Maybe your faith is too weak to resist the FACT that the Bible has errors, and that these errors have no bearing whatsoever on whether Jesus is God or not.
Try and think up some original arguments, or at least don't ask questions that children would ask.
Best wishes, you can be a Christian without ejecting your brain the minute you meet 'Jesus'.
Brian.
PS,
Sorry admin, I suppose some of my comments were a bit over the top, it has been a long day, I apologise again for posting some of the comments.
[Thanks, much appreciated and really big of you! --Admin]
[This message has been edited by Brian Johnston, 02-24-2003]
[This message has been edited by Admin, 02-24-2003]

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Brian
Member (Idle past 4959 days)
Posts: 4659
From: Scotland
Joined: 10-22-2002


Message 17 of 64 (34796)
03-20-2003 3:01 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Joralex
03-20-2003 1:40 PM


Re: One reason, coming right up!
quote:
The "perfectly good reason" is that these things that you would like are completely unnecessary/irrelevant/contrary towards accomplishing the objective that God intended. He had a purpose... the Bible as it is accomplishes that purpose... and that is the end of the story.
And that purpose is?
Brian.
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