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Author Topic:   The Bible 2003 Edition by God et al.
David unfamous
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Message 1 of 64 (32634)
02-19-2003 5:40 AM


Give me one reason why the most powerful being in existence would create such a scrappy, thrown together book comprised primarily of hearsay, then watch nearly 2000 years pass as the book gets screwed up through translation and has holes picked in it because of scientific and historical errancy, but doesn't think of updating it.
Surely it would be a piece of cake to create the new edition in every language spoken by every person on the globe. I mean, why produce a book in just one language after that Babel incident?
And if it were a new version, it would contain new stories of modern people doing stuff young people can relate to. And at least then it would be verifiable by all of us.
Then there's the science. As we know a lot more than we did back then, it could contain up-to-date explanations of Genesis.
Is this a good idea, or is there some perfectly good reason against it?

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David unfamous
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Message 5 of 64 (33022)
02-24-2003 6:19 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by drummachine
02-23-2003 9:33 PM


Where are the errors in the bible?
Here's a link to the 192 online issues of Biblical Errancy by Dennis McKinsey: http://members.aol.com/ckbloomfld/
Where is the evidence of the earth looking older?
If you continually ask this question drummachine, yet ignore the response every......single......time, then why should we have to play your little game of ignorance.
You believe the bible is not for today, how?
What use are passages like these?
Leviticus 24:23 Then Moses spoke to the Israelites, and they took the blasphemer outside the camp and stoned him. The Israelites did as the LORD commanded Moses.
Numbers 15:36 So the assembly took him outside the camp and stoned him to death, as the LORD commanded Moses.
Leviticus 19:20 'If a man sleeps with a woman who is a slave girl promised to another man but who has not been ransomed or given her freedom, there must be due punishment. Yet they are not to be put to death, because she had not been freed.
Leviticus 22:11 But if a priest buys a slave with money, or if a slave is born in his household, that slave may eat his food.
Leviticus 11:6 The rabbit, though it chews the cud, does not have a split hoof; it is unclean for you.
Leviticus 12:2 Say to the Israelites: 'A woman who becomes pregnant and gives birth to a son will be ceremonially unclean for seven days, just as she is unclean during her monthly period.
Leviticus 12:5 If she gives birth to a daughter, for two weeks the woman will be unclean, as during her period. Then she must wait sixty-six days to be purified from her bleeding.
Leviticus 13:45 The person with such an infectious disease must wear torn clothes, let his hair be unkempt, cover the lower part of his face and cry out, 'Unclean! Unclean!'
Leviticus 15:19 'When a woman has her regular flow of blood, the impurity of her monthly period will last seven days, and anyone who touches her will be unclean till evening.
And what does this teach children?
Genesis 19:32 Let's get our father to drink wine and then lie with him and preserve our family line through our father.
It was for ignorant peasant people? Please explain.
The Biblical Jesus told stories that could be understood by all. This included those who could not read nor write like peasants.
Why was Jesus angry in the temple?
Because he was under the dellusion the temple was his house.
Sure there are people that have made new translations(politically correct or whatever). There are still correct translations.
What do you see as a 'correct' version? Like I said, you'd expect a new version from the author. Or are we too painfully aware that occurences of God intervening with humans in the same way as in the Bible are non-existent?

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David unfamous
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Message 55 of 64 (35340)
03-26-2003 11:52 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by Joralex
03-20-2003 1:40 PM


Re: One reason, coming right up!
1. Tell me, do you claim to know and understand this "scrappy, thrown together book"?
Yes
2. Do you know what God's purpose was in giving us this "scrappy, thrown together book"?
I know what purpose those who claim the Bible to be the word of a God would have me understand it to be.
3. Do you know why He included some things while leaving others out of this "scrappy, thrown together book"?
I know that fallible humans and history have determined the completeness of the Bible.
I for one would like to know the answers to these questions.
My pleasure.
Piece of cake? Yes! Fulfilling His purpose? No!
Surely the purpose is to communicate a message. After the alleged Babel incident, you'd think master copies in all languages would be on the cards.
New version not necessary - original version is perfectly fine for its intended purpose.
And what exactly what do you think the intended purpose is?
As for the 'verifiable' part - what is it you want to 'verify'?
Um .... the actual existence of Jesus maybe. The global flood. Little things.
When would you feel completely satisfied that you've 'verified it'?
The answers in the question.
Also, tell me, do you pretend to know more than : "... the most powerful being in existence..." (your words)?
If I said 'yes' you wouldn't believe me, so why ask the question?
You are neglecting the purpose of the Book.
Which is ... ?
A while back I wrote a brief book review on Ernst Mayr's What Evolution Is. In that book review I didn't include a discussion on Fermat's Last Theorem. So?
Where are you going with this?
The "perfectly good reason" is that these things that you would like are completely unnecessary/irrelevant/contrary towards accomplishing the objective that God intended. He had a purpose... the Bible as it is accomplishes that purpose... and that is the end of the story.
How do you know that the purpose of the Bible is for us to question faith? Only then can we prove to one another that we have absolute freedom of thought and expression, or free will? That it is God that despairs at those who follow blindly?
Complaints against this policy may be voiced against the Author Himself on Judgment Day.
Maybe on judgement day you'll learn that it was you who got it all wrong.

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