Hi Amlodhi:
In the same sense, "ish" without the definite article would have the connotation of "a guy" or "a fellow", whereas "adam" without the definite article has the connotation of "humanity/mankind".
I'm sorry but this makes no sense.
We are both in agreement that Genesis 1:26 says "dm"/Adam.
"ish" or "ishi" is hebrew for man or mankind.
British = Brutus founded New Troy/London, descendant of Zarah/Genesis 38.
"brit" = covenant.
"ish" = man.
Hence, British = (O.T.) covenant man. Generic "ish" in action.
According to Dr. Scott the def/art cannot relegate "dm" to mean "ish".
The text says "dm" because the writer intends to single out this creation from every other "beast of the field". The def/art reinforces the object of this singling out.
The text says "Let us make Adam in our image" and no amount of grammatical contortions can change what you have admitted.
It should read "Let us make the Adam in our image" and in the previous post you admit that the ONLY reason this is not done is for proper english grammar considerations.
There can be no intent of the hebrew for the def/art to render "dm" - "ish". The very purpose of the def/art is to single out not just any man but Adamkind.
Your rendering is used by evolutionists to hijack Genesis and assert an ambiguity which allows them an ajar door to corrupt the source for their purposes.
The definite article does not convert "dm" to translate "ish".
What else could the author of Genesis done ? That person said "dm" because he meant "dm", if he wanted "ish" he would of said "ish".
The definite article, like I said, is intended to prevent exactly what you are doing.
source: Dr.Gene Scott
BTW, Dr. Scott routinely points out the errors of Brown-Driver and Briggs.
Give me a reference to any other proper name of a man in the biblical text that is preceded by the definite article and I will concede the point. If you cannot, you should concede the point.
"definite article" singles out not just any but THE something.
Prove the definite article, preceding the proper name, renders the proper name generic - why say a proper name if it is not meant ?
BUT there is no way to prove "dm" a proper name - it is the specific name given to a special creation, a special creation that receives the all important added element of God's breath/ruash/nefish.
"ish" is subsequently used to describe all the generic kinds of Adamkind.
Let's be clear; I'm saying that if it's prefixed with the definite article, then it's not a proper name. Look at Ecclesiastes 2:11-12 for example
You cannot leap from the objective undisputed Holy Writ of Genesis to a problematic Solomonic source. Superiority is not subject to correction by inferiority.
My sources say the only function of the definite article is to single out, and that it in no way can change "dm" to translate "ish".
Ez. 28:2, ". . . say to the ruler of Tyre . . . because your heart is lifted up, and you have said, 'I am a god' . . . yet you are man (adam), and not a god."
This is addressed to the ruler of Tyre. The term for "man" in the above passage is "adam", i.e. without the definite article. Thus, if you say that "adam" without the definite article should be translated as the proper name "Adam", then you must also be saying that Adam was the ruler of Tyre.
Here, then, we see that even without the definite article, the term "adam" doesn't necessarily indicate a proper name. Thus, it becomes apparent that rather than simply choosing when we'd like the term "adam" to indicate a proper name (I might, for instance, decide that I would like to make Adam the king of Tyre), we should instead look to the structure and context to see where we should understand the term as a proper name.
IF what you say here is correct - I concede the point.
I am going to check you out.
I need a source for hebrew, unlike you who actually know it.
WILLOWTREE:
I also submit that the rendering . . . is motivated by an 'a priori' theological position brought into the translation/debate
Amlodhi:
Yours may be, but I have no emotional investment here. It wouldn't make a bit of difference to me if the "first man" was referred to in Genesis as "Adam B. Finkelmeier, esquire" all the way through. But he isn't, so I prefer to base my opinions on:
No emotion except in your response - concede the point